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Old 05-21-2019, 01:51 PM
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Angry How do you kill vines forever??

I've been fighting with these vines for 2 years now. They killed a ficus hedge and have choked out everything I have planted near the fence line. I ripped everything out a few months ago, including the fence and nuked it all with Roundup Ground clear, the stuff that's supposed to last a year. Surprise surprise they're back already.

What's the secret for nuking these things?

I'm the only one of my neighbors that fights them. I've pulled up the roots, hit with the mower, trimmer, all sorts of HD herbicide....no luck.

This is one of about a dozen areas they're back. I just mowed them level to the ground weekend before last.




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Only way I've been successful is to dig up the "tuber" or whatever it is that they grow from. Sometimes I have to dig down a couple feet to get them. Otherwise, there may be chemicals out there that deal with them, or burn them.
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I had a Jamaican lady by my office that would beg me for it. They make tea from it. Crazy stuff. I eventually pulled so much of the stuff for her that it stopped growing.
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We dealt with it by cutting the vine and putting the freshly cut piece in Ortho weed killer. Keeping the vine in a jar with poison killed all of it the very first time. I remember we cut as much as the outer shell to uncover 4 or 5 inches. Any piece that had roots down the line was left in the jar also.
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Wow that's BIG!!
Spectracide works better than Roundup IMO.

It will kill the plant to the roots, but it has to be absorbed by the leaves.........So don't cut it all out and then spray the ground.
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Train the dogs to pee on just that? Bleach or salt?
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Old 05-21-2019, 03:12 PM
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If you have dogs or your kids that run around the back yard those chemicals are going to get tracked on your couch, carpet and bed. Just yank them out of the ground when ever you mow.
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GroundClear is made by Ortho, not roundup. But, it does include Glyphosate - the chemical sold as Roundup. It also includes Imazapyr, a chemical that works similarly to Glyphosate (Roundup) but sticks around int he soil for much longer. Both products will kill this vine. However, it's difficult to get the chemical to transport through the entire plant since vines are just so long. If a tiny drop of roundup hits a blade of grass, it is absorbed and transported through the whole plant to kill all of it. Not necessarily with vines. You really have to make sure to hit leaves along the whole length of the vine to kill it - even then, the root may survive to send out a new shoot later.

I wouldn't rely on pulling it - you'll miss some of the roots.

I would cut the vine off at the ground and paint undiluted Roundp on the cut-off stem sticking out of the ground. Don't buy the pre-mixed Roundup. You want the concentrate - 51% Glyphosate. This will be absorbed and will kill the plant, root and all.
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Originally Posted by TorFed View Post
Train the dogs to pee on just that? Bleach or salt?
They root on the outside of the fence and grow under it so itís out of dog land. I just planted new palms and accent plants on the inside so I have to be careful with the bleach but Iíve thought about it
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GroundClear is made by Ortho, not roundup. But, it does include Glyphosate - the chemical sold as Roundup. It also includes Imazapyr, a chemical that works similarly to Glyphosate (Roundup) but sticks around int he soil for much longer. Both products will kill this vine. However, it's difficult to get the chemical to transport through the entire plant since vines are just so long. If a tiny drop of roundup hits a blade of grass, it is absorbed and transported through the whole plant to kill all of it. Not necessarily with vines. You really have to make sure to hit leaves along the whole length of the vine to kill it - even then, the root may survive to send out a new shoot later.

I wouldn't rely on pulling it - you'll miss some of the roots.

I would cut the vine off at the ground and paint undiluted Roundp on the cut-off stem sticking out of the ground. Don't buy the pre-mixed Roundup. You want the concentrate - 51% Glyphosate. This will be absorbed and will kill the plant, root and all.
Thanks Iíll give that a try this evening. I always buy the concentrate and mix per directions. Iíll use it straight today. You are right itís the Ortho stuff. Iíve used the strong round up as well. Any preference?
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really guys?

pour gas on it. won't ever grow again...
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killzall. Ace hardware carries it here and it's the ONLY thing that has stopped em'. I'm pretty sure all those ferocious B-grade vine based horror movies were produced here, onsite where they flourish. The @#$er's will root in the palm of your hand if you pause too long.

https://www.fertilome.com/product/su...zall-ii-25-gal
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you need to identify the vine..... (there are several florida agencies that can help --- uf/ifas extension is one)...once identified a literature search will reveal the best process to eradicate (assuming it is a vine that has been targeted for study)

typically pulling a vine or cutting it will result in more vines coming from the root. Cutting at the ground and treating with a chemical is the preferred way......some chemical require mixing with an oil(vegetable or diesel fuel) to remain on the stem....other require mixing with a surfactant to be effective....(spray is possible but can damage surrounding plants)

In my case i have an ongoing battle with muscadine grape ivy..... i use remedy ultra mixed with veggie oil and paint it on the cut vine.... it is very effective
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Originally Posted by Still Stoked View Post
I doubt it. The equipment would be covered by vines before it could be dumped. Some communities here have vine specific festivals hoping to stay on the good side of the vines. They (communities) still exist so maybe it works??

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