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Old 05-20-2019, 06:45 AM
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My 16' X 36' deck has started squeeking lately, so I figured that I would tighten a few screws. Not that lucky, hundreds of them are broken and won't tighten or loosen. I bought 1,500 from Lowes and I had no clue that the # 9 X 3" screws made for decks are not worth a damn. I removed these screws from just one board, and we put them in with a 12 volt battery drill and none broke during installation. What did I do wrong? Maybe I should have used nails, like in the old days.

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Im going through a similar disaster with "hidden" fasteners through composite decking.... Gotta say. I love my sawzall.
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Yep. They blow. When I did my deck 2 years ago, and my daughter's deck last year; I went directly to a local fastener manufacturer and ordered 5,000 made on-site with U.S. steel.
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The shanks look too long to me. As the hole got larger over time that allowed some movement of the deck board and to squeak. BTW that is a total SWAG on my part.

How long ago did you build the deck?
Old 05-20-2019, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by round2it View Post
The shanks look too long to me. As the hole got larger over time that allowed some movement of the deck board and to squeak. BTW that is a total SWAG on my part.

How long ago did you build the deck?
almost a year.
SWAG??
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simple wild ass guess. I have the green deck screws from Lowes that have lasted many seasons. These screws have a problem no doubt.
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Old 05-20-2019, 07:23 AM
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Yeah they suck. I break them all the time with 1/4in impact.
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Need to use SST screws- the painted deck screws do not last as shown.
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Originally Posted by round2it View Post
simple wild ass guess. I have the green deck screws from Lowes that have lasted many seasons. These screws have a problem no doubt.
i thought SWAG meant style and attitude in the hip hop scene! never heard it used as you put it?
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If I'm correct you have to use a certain type of screws with the new salt treated crap.
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Originally Posted by Rolandt03 View Post
i thought SWAG meant style and attitude in the hip hop scene! never heard it used as you put it?
Going back to my military days. Had a lot of acronyms that didn't go mainstream. This appears to be one.

I just googled it and saw there are several meanings. None were my versions. lol.
Old 05-20-2019, 07:35 AM
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Use 304 stainless steel screws with a star bit.
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304 or 316 stainless (if your near salt) is the way to go. Torx head makes life much easier. They are, however expensive. ($340 for 1000 3.5" no. 10)
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Originally Posted by wahoo wacker View Post
304 or 316 stainless (if your near salt) is the way to go. Torx head makes life much easier. They are, however expensive. ($340 for 1000 3.5" no. 10)
I should have bought the stainless screws. They are only double the price, but surely worth it because the other ones sux.
You think LOWES will refund all my money?
Damn screws won't even come out, so I have to put 3 or 4 screws in a board, and it looks pretty bad. I went up to a size #10, but they will probably take a crap also.
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In the course of playing with a multitude of investment properties and around my own place - a Hitachi framing nailer and galvanized ring shank nails are a far better answer, all kinds of faster and result in a better finished product. Of course that's means about zero to an existing deck built with screws.
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Square head drive Stainless Steel deck screws #10x 2 1/2” on Amazon for about $16/box of 100. The Torx head are better than a standard drive but the square head is superior to all of them, IMO.
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Originally Posted by bsh102 View Post
Square head drive Stainless Steel deck screws #10x 2 1/2” on Amazon for about $16/box of 100. The Torx head are better than a standard drive but the square head is superior to all of them, IMO.
I will get some of these for repairs, but on the bright side, I can hear someone before they ever get to the back door because of my squeaking ass deck!!
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Originally Posted by Shipwreck1 View Post


I will get some of these for repairs, but on the bright side, I can hear someone before they ever get to the back door because of my squeaking ass deck!!
Good attitude to have OP! I build a lot of decks, do as the other poster said and get those stainless off of Amazon.
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I recommend these. Have been using Spax screws for years and they never disappoint.

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Read the first bullet in the product description. Totally addresses the issues you are describing.

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