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Old 05-18-2019, 04:25 PM
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Just in the rebound for a divorce and saved up some pennies for a boat recently. Not my dream boat, but good enough for a year or two until I get financial situated.

Its a 23í century walk around, trailer and a 225 sws. I like two strokes, so I was kinda stoked. Talk to the guy, he says everything is working, asked about the trailer he said he just did the bearings end of last year, itís good to go. I was a little suspicious in that a 2000 boat, almost always has something which doesnít work.

I head up about and hour north to meet the guy at a lake to run and check things out. I will say, I had a long week traveling, and had gone out the night before. So I was not super sharp. We launch the boat, motor fires right up. Run it and it runs very well, I was pretty happy at that point. I notice a few things, but nothing major.

We make the deal deal and I just want to get home and hit the couch. About 5 miles in, Iím looking at the trailer, passenger side and it kinda looks like the rear wheel is wobbly. I canít see it real well and wondered if it was the mirror vibrating. I know there is a rest area a few more miles up so I just push on. Stop at the rest area, walk around and the hub is smoking. Jack the trailer up and the wheel just falls off. Sunday night and the spindle is smoked. I call for a tow. The need to come with a low boy because of height issues with the hard top. $600 later and the boat is in the driveway, itís 11:30.

Next day, spend a few hours pulling decals off. The guy had them every where. Italian flags, his wifeís name, his name, safety stickers everywhere. There is one large sticker/decal, with his daughters name on the cabin. Solid and about 20Ēx 36Ē. I yank it, and apparently there were gouges, that Einstein filled with bondo. So pink gouges everywhere. Iím pissed but whatever, easy fix just pia

New axel comes in, put that on ordered new hubs all set up with it. Pull the other wheels. The bearings where toast, like they had to be the original from 2000. Race are toast. Whatever. Do it and be done.

He he has one of those rubber FM antennas on the hardtop, thing is toast, rusted to hell, wires are shot. But good thing he used plenty of 5200 to mount it! Plastic VHF antenna mount cracked to hell, but again more 5200. Had a flag holder which seemed to be randomly placed on the hard top, more 5200. Wiring in electronics box looks like a rusted iron anchor which was sitting in the ocean bottom for 200 years.

He had also told me he did all the filters, impeller and lube. I just ordered those, because Iím sure they are fíd up. He did leave me some heavy cloths line for dock lines, so that is good.

Just a rant, itís a $12k boat, so I didnít have high expectations, but the guy was either a box of rocks or just intentionally deceptive. Iím going with heís not a smart guy, and letting it go. I donít have the time to be pissed about it. Just wondering what Iíll find next.
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Old 05-18-2019, 04:32 PM
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Never buy a boat when hungover.
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Old 05-18-2019, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Boataholic View Post
Never buy a boat when hungover.
That is 100% my takeaway.
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I like your attitude OP, seriously. You could of come on here calling the seller a dirty MFer and throwing blame. Instead you're taking the high road, saying you were hung over and instead of calling the seller a pos you went with dumber than a box of rocks. Hey, listen, I've been there, had to sell my beautiful sport fisher yrs ago due to divorce, finally managed to scrape together a couple of nickles and dimes, bought a fixer upper through a "friend of a friends 2nd cousin" . It went sideways rather quickly but believe it or not, a lot of it happened because of these people honestly not knowing and my lack of due diligence. We got together and worked it out, had the boat for quite awhile and was good. Don't give up on people just yet. It sounds like you know your way around a rig, I think this will work out for you. Good luck with all of it.
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are the motors yamahas?
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Dam you already knows there is nothing else to say. You have a great attitude so you will be fine. Good luck and show pics of the upgrades.
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I second your great attitude. I've been lucky with boats but im also super picky. I had a guy try and flat out rip me off about 8 years ago. He wasted a lot of my time and effort but at least I was able to walk away without much money lost. Good luck and thank you for your story.
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Since when do we not flame the sellers on THT. This is a great thread of how to deal with things when they go south.
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Old 05-18-2019, 07:36 PM
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:11 PM
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are the motors yamahas?
yea itís a single saltwater series, 2 stroke. I have had HPDIís in the past (as well as F225ís). I donít know what the fuss is with 2 strokes, I like pouring oil instead of changing oil. 4 stroke is good too.

Appreciate all the good thoughts. I gave up being pissed off on life when the dark cloud left the house 🙂

Bought a water seperator because I didnít see one at first. Just found one in the bilge about 6Ē off the keel. No way thatís staying!
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SWS good strong motor just thirsty. Still buy a lot of fuel with the savings.
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Originally Posted by Boat Hound View Post

yea itís a single saltwater series, 2 stroke. I have had HPDIís in the past (as well as F225ís). I donít know what the fuss is with 2 strokes, I like pouring oil instead of changing oil. 4 stroke is good too.

Appreciate all the good thoughts. I gave up being pissed off on life when the dark cloud left the house 🙂

Bought a water seperator because I didnít see one at first. Just found one in the bilge about 6Ē off the keel. No way thatís staying!
Nothing like jamming down the ICW at 45mph - sand bar hopping for a few days days on 2 strokes(run 2 here) with a few tools knowing if it breaks you can fix it. Most 4 strokers don't go super far. Or tool around.

Venice water way down south past dog island is fun... literally nobody, no waves, just screaming 2 stroke motors going wot

gas is fairly cheap...
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This is my 5th season with my latest boat purchase and I did a couple of things I said I would never do. I checked out the boat while it was in a storage building, so dark I could only see what the flashlight showed me. It was January so no chance to take it for a sea trial either....everything I said I would never do.

Here is the rest of the story......a fishing buddy told me about the boat and that the owner is in the last stage of lung cancer and wants to sell the boat so his wife won't have to mess with it after he dies. I met the guy Bill at the storage place where he has kept it stored indoors over the winter for 11+ seasons. It was hard to tell much about the boat except that I asked a lot of questions, Bill assured me that there wasn't a single thing wrong with the boat that he was aware of. He told me how much he wanted for the boat and how badly he wanted to sell if so his wife wouldn't have to deal with trying to sell it. He was a very sick man and was having a hard time breathing without coughing. I was kind of shocked when him and wife pulled up and they were both smoking with the windows closed in their car, but I guess for him it didn't matter any more. He told me what he wanted for the boat and I told him I would buy it and I didn't even try to get the price down. How could I ask him for a lower purchase price based on him being near to death.

There was a few surprises with the boat but I don't think Bill knew about them because they didn't happen until later in the first season I owned the boat. I wanted something with a lot of fishing room and that had a hard top so I got both. The stringers were rebuilt 2 years before I bought the boat and the cost for the stringer replacement was almost as much as I paid for the whole boat. I'm in my 5th season and I'm glad I bought the boat so all turned out well.
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This is my 5th season with my latest boat purchase and I did a couple of things I said I would never do. I checked out the boat while it was in a storage building, so dark I could only see what the flashlight showed me. It was January so no chance to take it for a sea trial either....everything I said I would never do.

Here is the rest of the story......a fishing buddy told me about the boat and that the owner is in the last stage of lung cancer and wants to sell the boat so his wife won't have to mess with it after he dies. I met the guy Bill at the storage place where he has kept it stored indoors over the winter for 11+ seasons. It was hard to tell much about the boat except that I asked a lot of questions, Bill assured me that there wasn't a single thing wrong with the boat that he was aware of. He told me how much he wanted for the boat and how badly he wanted to sell if so his wife wouldn't have to deal with trying to sell it. He was a very sick man and was having a hard time breathing without coughing. I was kind of shocked when him and wife pulled up and they were both smoking with the windows closed in their car, but I guess for him it didn't matter any more. He told me what he wanted for the boat and I told him I would buy it and I didn't even try to get the price down. How could I ask him for a lower purchase price based on him being near to death.

There was a few surprises with the boat but I don't think Bill knew about them because they didn't happen until later in the first season I owned the boat. I wanted something with a lot of fishing room and that had a hard top so I got both. The stringers were rebuilt 2 years before I bought the boat and the cost for the stringer replacement was almost as much as I paid for the whole boat. I'm in my 5th season and I'm glad I bought the boat so all turned out well.
Sounds like it all worked out well, which I know this will too. Just need to put the time into it!
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So lets see pics of what all is jank. I know that motor.
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Every boat I've bought had surprises. My current one had a 9 hour survey, haul out, long sea trial, etc... Still finding crazy stuff no one caught.
I figure I'm going to fix or change a bunch of stuff anyways, now I just do it in a different order.
We call them "Peterisms" after the guy Peter that owned it before us. Time to remove another Peterism from the boat! Last night it was the ground wire to the fresh water pump that was too long so it was tied in a bow with a hair tie.
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Originally Posted by Boat Hound View Post

yea itís a single saltwater series, 2 stroke. I have had HPDIís in the past (as well as F225ís). I donít know what the fuss is with 2 strokes, I like pouring oil instead of changing oil. 4 stroke is good too.

Appreciate all the good thoughts. I gave up being pissed off on life when the dark cloud left the house 🙂

Bought a water seperator because I didnít see one at first. Just found one in the bilge about 6Ē off the keel. No way thatís staying!
Well atleast you won't have to deal with the 4-stroke fiasco. You'd be in a whole new world of hurt
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So lets see pics of what all is jank. I know that motor.
Donít have many yet, but here is the toasted spindle and the tow.

ok. Maybes not cant seem to upload from my phone.
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Well atleast you won't have to deal with the 4-stroke fiasco. You'd be in a whole new world of hurt
lol. Been there done that! Damn F225ís. Got burnt on that one.
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Donít have many yet, but here is the toasted spindle and the tow.

ok. Maybes not cant seem to upload from my phone.
i couldnít upload pictures until someone told me to use the little picture icon next to the smilie face above the reply box.
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