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Old 05-18-2019, 10:26 AM
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The Cruise ship lines are bringing larger ships to Alaska this year. There are four of these large ships working in Alaska this year, the pilots ( Harbor pilots ) are being outspoken suggesting the handling challenges of these larger boats are going to be problematic. 3 of them are pod drives but one of them is conventional shafts and rudder. The pilots are suggesting a maximum of 15 knot winds for mooring the one with conventional drives.
This one was in town on Friday, 4200 passengers, 1700 crew...



Back in 1980 the cruise ship Prinsendam caught fire off of our coast, 320 passengers and the crew of 190 were evacuated and most ended up in our little town. To suggest that 510 people challenged our resources is an understatement. I can't imagine what's going to happen if one of these big boats has a problem around here,
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Small boats for us, no cattle cruises. Max pass 240. Amazon cruise/exploration was 43.
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Tauck Small Boat Cruises

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Sounds like the harbor pilots are just seeking to get paid a whole lot more.
Those big cruise ships, even the ones with shafts props and bow and stern thrusters are highly maneuverable - pod ships aren't much more agile as they don'y have stern thrusters.
These jumbo cruise ships go in and out of ports in up to 30 kts of wind without assist tugs pretty regularly - now 50+ kts I am sure adds a pucker factor for the bridge crew.
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Pods are better than stern thrusters, much more powerful and more direction control.
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no way am I seeing Alaska on the big ass thing.
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This is on my bucket list https://www.tugboatcruise.com/#top I hate the city so why would I vacation on a floating city?
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The Cruise ship lines are bringing larger ships to Alaska this year. There are four of these large ships working in Alaska this year, the pilots ( Harbor pilots ) are being outspoken suggesting the handling challenges of these larger boats are going to be problematic. 3 of them are pod drives but one of them is conventional shafts and rudder. The pilots are suggesting a maximum of 15 knot winds for mooring the one with conventional drives.
This one was in town on Friday, 4200 passengers, 1700 crew...
The biggest cruise ships now have 6000+ passengers. 4200 was like 10+ years ago....

My wife and I prefer to limit to around 2000 passengers as a compromise between huge crowd and modern amenities

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Now that I know what harbor pilots get paid...I'd say they can handle it.



0% chance I would want to cruise Alaska on that monstrosity.
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Little off topic here but I just got off a Disney cruise yesterday. I wouldnt do another if it was given to me.
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Let me guess, too many kids?
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Let me guess, too many kids?
Probably too much everything!
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Let me guess, too many kids?
Hahaha. To many human beings all together. Did I mention how g damn expensive it was? Here I am boat shopping and threw a nice down payment away on that lol.
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Unless I can fish off the back of it, I’m not going on it
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You can fish if you want to, but you will need a very long handled gaff, 12 stories is quite a lift, you could troll too, but don't expect the boat to slow down if you hook something, some rope to tie yourself to the rail might be an idea too.
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Not a fan of cruise ships but if I had to go on one it would not be a big one like that. I do not see how that could be fun.
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Azamra Cruises about 700 passengers
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Originally Posted by commuter boats View Post
The Cruise ship lines are bringing larger ships to Alaska this year. There are four of these large ships working in Alaska this year, the pilots ( Harbor pilots ) are being outspoken suggesting the handling challenges of these larger boats are going to be problematic. 3 of them are pod drives but one of them is conventional shafts and rudder. The pilots are suggesting a maximum of 15 knot winds for mooring the one with conventional drives.
This one was in town on Friday, 4200 passengers, 1700 crew...



Back in 1980 the cruise ship Prinsendam caught fire off of our coast, 320 passengers and the crew of 190 were evacuated and most ended up in our little town. To suggest that 510 people challenged our resources is an understatement. I can't imagine what's going to happen if one of these big boats has a problem around here,
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That's a very real and serious point Gerald, NO little settlement could hand the influx of thousands of people in a day. Not only would that put the thousand of survivor in a precarious situation but it would also compromise the locals that lean on the essentials.

I live outside a small village of 700 people, that's my pace. Just looking at that monstrosity my anxiety levels are going up....not my thing.
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15 knots? Wow, Skagway is a miserable blow hole but in the past they rerouted when it was more than that .
https://khns.org/high-winds-reroute-...gway-to-haines
I'm not a fan of the big ships, I've seen too many viruses spread through town after a ship leaves.
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10 days from NYC to Iceland and ports around the Island, About 250 passengers, 140 crew, terrific experience. All inclusive, including tips, excellent dining, all daily excursions, and all cocktails and wine, beer. The ship is French, Le Soleal, and the trip was booked through Tauck Tours.



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