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Old 05-15-2019, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by catmandoo1 View Post
Apple has to be the dumbest system ever. My wife insisted on an iPhone and it is the STUPIDEST system I have ever seen! After listening to her constant confusion,I told her she should go to college to figure it out. Biggest POS on the market-no wonder their sales are down. Android beats the shit out of Crapple. Finally, she bought an android phone and loves it! Apple is for elitists and self-important twats.
Apple died with Steve Jobs. I really enjoy my iphone but understand it's likely going away. For example, it freezes up. Jobs would've gone ape sh@$ on that and not rested till' it was fixed. But not today, today it continues since there are new devices to buy. And now there's no one to go ape sh#@ to force developers to fix it. He certainly had his faults but he did understand what people wanted and how to develop a following.
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Old 05-15-2019, 06:13 PM
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Let me see if I got this straight, he's making 100K a year and that's just his pension and you called HIM out??

100K in much of the northeast is jack shit and I'm in a state that's affordable compared to Jersey.

Pretty sure he's eating beans and rice for dinner.
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:38 PM
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I don't need to text. I don't want, or need, groceries delivered. And I sure as hell don't need Angies List" for anything. A time saver is a device which works correctly and doesn't require hours of time wasted to make it work!
You might find those services helpful, along with Uber/Lyft if you could no longer drive.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:38 PM
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Wife (70) and I (72) STILL have our first cellphones - the FLIPS - that we bought 8-10yrs. ago and we have REFUSED to upgrade over the years. We don't (read: CAN'T/don't know how) text and have no use for the internet stuff outside the home.

BUT, more and more, it appears we will be upgrading in the next several months. THAT'S when we'll have to take my son (42) or daughter (37) WITH us to wade through an upgrade. It'll be a learning process, for sure, and I HATE to go through that curve AGAIN! Son has a lot of patience, so he'll get us through it. I DO look forward to having a decent camera that the new phones provide, though.

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Old 05-15-2019, 09:54 PM
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I don't feel the need to be online everywhere I go and I really don't want to be constantly available. I did that for 40 years too, Pretty much lugging a pager or later a cell 24/7. I like my time off the grid. Call my land line and leave a message. I will get back to you.
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Old 05-16-2019, 12:52 AM
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...my wife and I are both artists and procreate on the 12.9” iPad Pro
My wife and I couldn't procreate on a Cray-5
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Old 05-16-2019, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by fritz423 View Post
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...my wife and I are both artists and procreate on the 12.9” iPad Pro
My wife and I couldn't procreate on a Cray-5
You must be some big folks. I could see having problems and cracking the screen on the iPad, but the XT5 is built with a pretty stout frame and has plenty of flat surfaces to work with!!




J/K!!
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Old 05-16-2019, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Sprockets View Post
You might find those services helpful, along with Uber/Lyft if you could no longer drive.
When I go out drinking with my buddy, Uber is actually kinda neat. Couple more lawsuits, and Uber is toast, though. Business recommendations? Every business owner out there writes their own reviews under someone elses name.
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:10 AM
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When I go out drinking with my buddy, Uber is actually kinda neat. Couple more lawsuits, and Uber is toast, though. Business recommendations? Every business owner out there writes their own reviews under someone elses name.
I use it whenever I travel.

A few months ago I attended a seminar the focused on solutions to help elderly clients cope with living at home longer. If they are savy enough to use smart phones, it can open them to a lot of services that can help enhance their lives. For the current 80 somethings, it's hit or miss. For my generation (late 50's), being tech savy may change things significantly.
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:09 AM
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Well I am 71 and still very willing to learn every day. For example, I may try the new creative spelling that I am seeing everywhere, you know like using "jsut" in place of "just". Or the new ageist bias. Might be fun, you think?.... No really, do you think?
No need to be a douche. I get it - I accidentally transposed 2 characters while typing. It actually happens often for me, as my right hand types slower than my left, resulting in letters typed with my left hand registering on the keyboard a little quicker. That's why you'll see "teh" rather than "the" in some of my replies.

So rather than an ad hominem attack, maybe a more civil response would have been "not all old people are resistant to change, and some like to learn new things every day". Now get off my lawn.
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce W View Post
Wife (70) and I (72) STILL have our first cellphones - the FLIPS - that we bought 8-10yrs. ago and we have REFUSED to upgrade over the years. We don't (read: CAN'T/don't know how) text and have no use for the internet stuff outside the home.

BUT, more and more, it appears we will be upgrading in the next several months. THAT'S when we'll have to take my son (42) or daughter (37) WITH us to wade through an upgrade. It'll be a learning process, for sure, and I HATE to go through that curve AGAIN! Son has a lot of patience, so he'll get us through it. I DO look forward to having a decent camera that the new phones provide, though.

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I tried to keep my flip phone because it was all the phone I needed. The service provider kept degrading the signal strength. I couldn't make or receive a call at my home. I couldn't hear what anyone said so it became useless. I upgraded to a Android something but I don't use it to access email or the net (tht). I do send texts but not too many. I'm 10 years younger than you. My reasoning for not wanting to become addicted to my phone is, I spent my career in IT with pagers, phones and immediate support requirements. No more. Not for me.
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:29 AM
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With boomers coming of age, I actually think there is a huge untapped market for user friendly computer and smartphone applications that make it super easy and intuitive for them to conduct the 3 to 4 tasks that they use the devices for 90% of the time. I can only guess that tech companies do not want the stigma associated with developing the software for "old people".
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I don't know why people think boomers are so tech ignorant. We invented most of the technology the kids are so good at using. We just didn't write the bloated software that is so cumbersome to run.
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gfretwell View Post
I don't know why people think boomers are so tech ignorant. We invented most of the technology the kids are so good at using. We just didn't write the bloated software that is so cumbersome to run.
No, like 2% of boomers invented the tech. Most of you had nothing to do with it, and struggle to understand it at any time. Not you per say but most boomers.
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jobowker View Post

maybe a more civil response would have been "not all old people are resistant to change, and some like to learn new things every day". Now get off my lawn.
Have you stopped to think for a moment that if you had posted originally what you said above rather than your blanket statement about all old people that you may not have got the response you did get?

Feel free to get on my lawn though just watch out for the puppy land mines
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Old 05-16-2019, 03:10 PM
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I tried to keep my flip phone because it was all the phone I needed. The service provider kept degrading the signal strength. I couldn't make or receive a call at my home. I couldn't hear what anyone said so it became useless. I upgraded to a Android something but I don't use it to access email or the net (tht). I do send texts but not too many. I'm 10 years younger than you. My reasoning for not wanting to become addicted to my phone is, I spent my career in IT with pagers, phones and immediate support requirements. No more. Not for me.
I wasn't in IT but may as well have been. Easily 30-40 texts a day, multiple programs, helped others, etc etc.... to R (retirement) day. Went dark and changed to a flip phone hoping for it to be dumber than texting. Didn't last long, about 2-3 years but was nice. Inched back in because of social media stuff and new grandson. Got sick of tracking crap they do today and dis-ingauged from it all about 6 months ago. I'm done with it all forever. Old friends know I know, new ones group me with tech challenged old codges. I like it that way.
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Old 05-16-2019, 03:46 PM
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the stuff the present day techs come up with amaze me, Verizon several months ago they ask for your pass word, I did not have one , say representative, no response, call the store (old school) the man says call 611 on your cell, the machine asks for your password.
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Old 05-16-2019, 04:51 PM
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I grew up in the shadow of Cape Canaveral. You know what put a man on the moon? Slide rules, and 20 yo kids like my room-mate writing code for NASA. Gotta buddy, his dad was in charge of power plant start-ups and operation for FPL. You know what started and ran Turkey Point, the nuke plant? A Norton 64 (?).

So, tell me again how great and indispensable the new crap is.
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I tried to keep my flip phone because it was all the phone I needed. The service provider kept degrading the signal strength. I couldn't make or receive a call at my home. I couldn't hear what anyone said so it became useless. I upgraded to a Android something but I don't use it to access email or the net (tht). I do send texts but not too many. I'm 10 years younger than you. My reasoning for not wanting to become addicted to my phone is, I spent my career in IT with pagers, phones and immediate support requirements. No more. Not for me.
This will sound like a conspiracy theory, but I feel like this is the market controlling the consumer. Simple flip phones are being phased out instead of upgrading them to work on 3G/4G RFs. New vehicles have cellular broadband connections all the time now, whether you want it or not. Can't buy a non-smart TV nowadays. Soon you won't be able to buy a regular thermostat, or refrigerator, or *insert appliance* that won't have some kind of internet connection. Your data is like a gold mine that keeps on making profit for manufacturers and data mining companies long after the purchase of the product. The smokescreen of a privacy "agreement" is worthless if you have no other choice. The market has us right where they want us.

Okay, crazy rant over.
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Old 05-17-2019, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
I grew up in the shadow of Cape Canaveral. You know what put a man on the moon? Slide rules, and 20 yo kids like my room-mate writing code for NASA. Gotta buddy, his dad was in charge of power plant start-ups and operation for FPL. You know what started and ran Turkey Point, the nuke plant? A Norton 64 (?).

So, tell me again how great and indispensable the new crap is.
That's sort of myopic, isn't it. Think about it... the "new" crap has given us things like multidimensional printing... and what the other CNC type innovations? Not to mention the fact that the "old" innovations you mentioned weren't without issue. They had failures also.

Older people, and that includes myself as I get older, need to stay with the times.
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