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Old 05-06-2019, 05:50 AM
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Default Motorcycle Safety Basic Rider - that freaking box, man...

That freaking box... grrr... I put BOTH feet down on the exam.

I only got it once during the practice sessions, and only dabbed about 3 times - mostly left the box every other time.

God, I hate that box.
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The trick is to leave the clutch in for 75% of the time while in the box, occasionally letting it out for a second and then right back in again.

Once I started doing that, it became a whole lot easier.
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That freaking box... grrr... I put BOTH feet down on the exam.

I only got it once during the practice sessions, and only dabbed about 3 times - mostly left the box every other time.

God, I hate that box.


Really glad to see you took the class, it should be mandatory for everyone getting their MC license. I went one more step and took the advanced defensive course.
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:02 AM
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Really glad to see you took the class, it should be mandatory for everyone getting their MC license. I went one more step and took the advanced defensive course.
It was a no-brainer. For $200, you get a ton of instruction, and assuming you pass, exempt from the riding portion of the NC DMV licensing exam. Just avoiding the DMV is worth several hundred dollars to me.

Further, I really don't have much experience riding - probably less than 250 miles in my life, and most of that was 30 years ago. So, again, a no-brainer. I learned a LOT.

I did well on every other skill test. But that box will haunt me.
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:04 AM
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Really glad to see you took the class, it should be mandatory for everyone getting their MC license. I went one more step and took the advanced defensive course.
How was the advanced course? I'm a pretty conservative/laid back rider,and took the basic class back in 2007. Is there any benefit now to taking the advanced course, or is that something only for new riders?
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:07 AM
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Now take the advanced course and do the same box with your 800-lb touring bike
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:13 AM
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I took the course back in 2009 when I got my bike because scheduling with the DMV had a 4 month wait for the next opening. Paid $200 and had my endorsement in 2 days. Only lost 2 points on the skills test in a torrential downpour
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Those courses are worth there weight in gold - add to that a lot of parking lot practice. I would go to a very large parking lot and practice quick maneuvers, high speed emergency braking etc. The training classes are all low speed and that's extremely important, but you also need to know how the bike reacts at higher speeds.
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jobowker View Post
The trick is to leave the clutch in for 75% of the time while in the box, occasionally letting it out for a second and then right back in again.

Once I started doing that, it became a whole lot easier.
Yeah, I tried that, but I don't think it would work in this case.

The box was inclined from side to side. Making the turn downhill was easy. It was the uphill part that I couldn't get (more than once). A blip on the throttle would unbalance the bike, so you had to have some power all the time. After watching videos, I can see that I just wasn't making enough of a good head turn. I could get away with that on the downhill. But I wasn't counterbalancing on the uphill and I'm pretty sure that's where this went wrong.

And the instructor only used the uphill turn on the exam.
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:16 AM
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biggest safety tip I can give you about riding is don't concentrate on riding the bike. watch whats around you. let the riding part become subconscious
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:17 AM
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Never met a box i couldn't master
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:25 AM
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Keep the clutch in mostly and the revs high, and always look toward where you want to go. That is, turn your head; your body and the bike will follow.
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Originally Posted by Knoxes View Post
It was a no-brainer. For $200, you get a ton of instruction, and assuming you pass, exempt from the riding portion of the NC DMV licensing exam. Just avoiding the DMV is worth several hundred dollars to me.

Further, I really don't have much experience riding - probably less than 250 miles in my life, and most of that was 30 years ago. So, again, a no-brainer. I learned a LOT.

I did well on every other skill test. But that box will haunt me.
Wow, things must have changed since I took mine in 2005 (after 20 years of riding) in PA is was free at the time. And yes, being able to take the written test and riding test at the end of the class and avoiding going to the DMV was worth its weight in Gold Lol

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How was the advanced course? I'm a pretty conservative/laid back rider,and took the basic class back in 2007. Is there any benefit now to taking the advanced course, or is that something only for new riders?
The advanced course was excellent. It was two, two hour classes. We had a class of 15 and their were 4 instructors, two were motorcycle cops and two were long time riders. The MC guys had a lot of great stories, along with videos we watch giving different options to do in worst case scenarios.

Ironically I don't ride anymore, or I should say I don't ride the streets anymore. I realized no matter how safe I rode someone was trying to kill me. I had three close calls, the final one was when I was driving on a road doing about 35mph. A person pulled up to a stop sign at a street to the right of me. I saw the person look both ways, LOOK RIGHT AT ME and pulled out anyway. Luckily my last bike had ABS, I ended up about 6 inches from the drivers door. Ironically again I had a cop right behind me that saw the whole thing, I was so shaken I had to pull over. He pulled the person over right away and reamed them out and then gave them a ticket. The cop came over to talk to me and the first thing he said was the person never saw you. Even with a big sports bike, dual headlights, Kisan Headlight Modulator this person never saw me and I believed it. Sadly we are not taught to look for motorcycles
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This book makes a great supplement to the course. Where the basic rider course teaches skills needed to avoid a crash, this book teaches you how to avoid needing to put those skills to use in the first place.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...t_Motorcycling
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Originally Posted by Laguna Al View Post
Keep the clutch in mostly and the revs high, and always look toward where you want to go. That is, turn your head; your body and the bike will follow.
And rear brake only to control/stabilize engine power
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Google "Target Fixation" and learn how to avoid it.

Way more important than low speed maneuvering in a box.




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Old 05-06-2019, 06:41 AM
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Box? Some kind of electronic thing?
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Originally Posted by RIDE2GETHER View Post
Now take the advanced course and do the same box with your 800-lb touring bike
This is what our instructor did, two up. Scrapin' boards...
The bike goes where you look.
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What I learned was it's not if, but when you will crash, All The Gear All The Time
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Old 05-06-2019, 07:55 AM
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[QUOTE=FASTFJR;12499497]Wow, things must have changed since I took mine in 2005 (after 20 years of riding) in PA is was free at the time. And yes, being able to take the written test and riding test at the end of the class and avoiding going to the DMV was worth its weight in Gold Lol



Hell. When i got my lic you didn't even have to take a test They were just starting to issue drivers lic


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