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Old 05-05-2019, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
If you have no military experience like me, everyone should be required to attend a graduation at Parris Island! What a fascinating, national pride generating experience. Make snowflakes attend a dozen times.
Not sure if they still offer it, but our high school ROTC got to go to PI and stay in the barracks for a week living like a recruit. The DI’s went easy on us but it was still quite the experience. Everyone should have to do that.
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Old 05-05-2019, 02:11 PM
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Hollywood in most of the movies with few exceptions, ie We were Soldiers, portrayed us as rapists and murdering civilians. I was there for eleven months and never saw thatl.
I was in the jungle for 9 months and also think these movies are all way to much Hollywood and portrayed us as incompetent crazed stupid drugged a$$holes; (Think about it - was the free love hippie movement at home the way it is shown in movies?)
Sure I guess some us were were. Remember in Nam, like every war, the vast majority of soldiers are never on the front eyeball to eyeball, muzzle to muzzle with the enemy. Most 85 to 90% were support - cooks, planners,administrators, artillery, truck drivers, laundry, clerks, engineers armorers,intelligence, laundry and all sort of civilian type jobs. But those are the ones who write most of the books and movies. Exception was the book by Phil Caputo -can't remember name. ADD - Rumor of War...

Anyway back to the movies -Platoon and Apocalypse were the worse. I never got through any of them. Turned most off except we were soldiers which was actually ,my old unit. C 1/7 First Cav. The Ken Burns and the HBO documentaries are pretty accurate but not as titillating as the Hollywood stuff. There was also another decent PBS documentary. I don't remember all and maybe haven't watch all the Nam movies but probably saw most and really didn't think any were even good war stories

For a macho thriller with your stereotypical Nam Vet watch any RAMBO movie - doesn't pretend to be real and very entertaining. Many of the WWII movies are better war stories. Saving Private Ryan is pretty realistic from a combat infantry man's POV. It is a good depiction of the shit no win decisions that have to be made at times by small unit leaders. Hurt locker (Iraq) is a good story of how you can't really ever return to the civilian life you left and for how many the Combat High can become addicting to many.

It was a strange time and very strange war that almost tore the country apart. Finally the system prevailed and we just got the heck out - everybody had enough. It is probably really hard to adequately portray. These last several years I read a lot about WW2 Iraq, Afghanistan and WWI . The cost of war is always unacceptable. WWII was the big one. The good war. And that caused maybe as many as 100 million deaths - half of them civilians - the majority of them women and children. Both sides intentionally targeted civilians. The good war. To end it we had to give half of Europe to the Russians for enslavement.
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I've been told I deserve royalties from that movie. It followed me around for my entire 8 year enlistment. If I had a dollar every time someone would.say "you look so familiar" followed by "holy shit, you're Pyle from FMJ."


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Old 05-05-2019, 03:19 PM
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Platoon. 25th Infantry Division, my old unit.
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Old 05-05-2019, 03:46 PM
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Platoon.
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Old 05-05-2019, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Billdo View Post
I've been told I deserve royalties from that movie. It followed me around for my entire 8 year enlistment. If I had a dollar every time someone would.say "you look so familiar" followed by "holy shit, you're Pyle from FMJ."


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Leonard Lawrence. Are you royalty?

I had to find that scene now.

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FMJ. No contest.


Followed by are trying to sneak an inch in there on me(might not be exact but close enough) My platoon Drill sergeants were the more sadistic quieter types but the black hat instructors were much closer to that bugeye crazy scary type like R Lee portrayed. When I went to boot the rules/law changed and they supposedly couldn't hit you. Apparently that memo never made it to RIP. To date I have never been kicked in the ass as hard as I was in rip. The solarplexes shot I never saw happen but I did see 4 large nco's throw a kid out of the barracks never to be seen again.

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Old 05-05-2019, 06:42 PM
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See? Look at all the quotes from FMJ..probably the most famous.."Me soo ho-ney..luv you long time".
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Old 05-06-2019, 04:16 AM
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I'm surprised that no one mentioned another R. Lee Ermey gem, "The Boys in Company C". It predated all of the aforementioned, as it came out like 18 months before Apocalypse now.
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Old 05-06-2019, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
See? Look at all the quotes from FMJ..probably the most famous.."Me soo ho-ney..luv you long time".
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:42 AM
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FMJ...

used to be able to recite almost the entire first half of the movie in college...a beer drinking activity with buddies back then lol.
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:59 AM
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Apocalypse Now (then FMJ).
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Old 05-06-2019, 07:50 AM
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Both great movies. I liked Uncommon valor with Gene Hackman as well. Heck Bat 21 was good too. Chris
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Originally Posted by bottomfeeder28 View Post
Both great movies. I liked Uncommon valor with Gene Hackman as well. Heck Bat 21 was good too. Chris
Bat 21 is definitely worth watching.
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:10 AM
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FMJ until Pyle kills himself then movie goes downhill. From beginning to end got to b Platoon
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:16 AM
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I like both movies but would give the nod to Platoon. Some great lines in FMJ but I always thought Matthew Modine was a terrible actor. Like We Were Soldiers and Apocalypse Now too.
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:17 AM
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"The Boys in Company C" is a great movie! I think better than Platoon of Full Metal Jacket (although both are good I think FMJ would be my pick of the two) If you want to read a great Viet Nam war book, read Dispatches by Michael Herr. They ended up giving him a credit on Apocalypse Now because they stole so much from this book. The book is not very long but it's one of my favorite books, let alone favorite war era book!
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