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Old 05-03-2019, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by schoolsout1 View Post
I know...lol. I've shared it here and elsewhere. They just won't want someone misinterpreting it from what I have seen...not like it is super secret.
Seems a lot of the reds are from lamb + GF. Interesting.
Old 05-03-2019, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Fish Haid View Post
5 dogs over last 20 years - Purina Dog Chow in green bag. No problems.

Well, one did die of spleen cancer. One got hit by car. One died at 12. One still alive at 14, and another is only 4 now.
This. Add a raw egg once a day, and raw carrots, green beans, and chicken gizzards for treats.
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Lost my 4yr old Doberman in March. I watched her collapse suddenly while chasing a squirrel in the park. I rushed her to the vet and got her there within a few minutes but they could not revive her. Iím thinking it was likely DCM. She was otherwise in great health and showed no symptoms but her breed is genetically predisposed to it and she was a rescue so likely a product of backyard breeding.

I had had her on grain free since I got her at around 7-8 months old. I thought it was best for her but now likely it wasnít. I feel sick about it.

We rescued another dobie two weeks ago. I spent hours researching what to feed and itís still a mystery. Many opinions and facts but nothing is clear. He was eating Purina one lamb/rice at his foster and We got him Orijen regional red (yes grain free) but doesnít have the fillers the other grain free had. So his getting a mix of those two. The plan is to rotate him slowly with several good feeds. As I canít decide really what is the right one and at least he will get a balance of different feeds.
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Originally Posted by ucf_motorcycle View Post
Lost my 4yr old Doberman in March. I watched her collapse suddenly while chasing a squirrel in the park. I rushed her to the vet and got her there within a few minutes but they could not revive her. Iím thinking it was likely DCM. She was otherwise in great health and showed no symptoms but her breed is genetically predisposed to it and she was a rescue so likely a product of backyard breeding.

I had had her on grain free since I got her at around 7-8 months old. I thought it was best for her but now likely it wasnít. I feel sick about it.

We rescued another dobie two weeks ago. I spent hours researching what to feed and itís still a mystery. Many opinions and facts but nothing is clear. He was eating Purina one lamb/rice at his foster and We got him Orijen regional red (yes grain free) but doesnít have the fillers the other grain free had. So his getting a mix of those two. The plan is to rotate him slowly with several good feeds. As I canít decide really what is the right one and at least he will get a balance of different feeds.
i think you posted in another thread about this, but my condolences again. There were a few other posts on the FB page where one dog was put down after trying meds and switching foods and another that had a mild case that was, hopefully, caught early enough to reverse.

Worst feeling in the world thinking what we were feeding could have been killing our buddies. I ignored the hype at first, but have come around no way Iím risking it.
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I feed Purina Pro Plan.
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Originally Posted by ucf_motorcycle View Post
Lost my 4yr old Doberman in March. I watched her collapse suddenly while chasing a squirrel in the park. I rushed her to the vet and got her there within a few minutes but they could not revive her. Iím thinking it was likely DCM. She was otherwise in great health and showed no symptoms but her breed is genetically predisposed to it and she was a rescue so likely a product of backyard breeding.

I had had her on grain free since I got her at around 7-8 months old. I thought it was best for her but now likely it wasnít. I feel sick about it.

We rescued another dobie two weeks ago. I spent hours researching what to feed and itís still a mystery. Many opinions and facts but nothing is clear. He was eating Purina one lamb/rice at his foster and We got him Orijen regional red (yes grain free) but doesnít have the fillers the other grain free had. So his getting a mix of those two. The plan is to rotate him slowly with several good feeds. As I canít decide really what is the right one and at least he will get a balance of different feeds.
My condolences to you and your family
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Originally Posted by schoolsout1 View Post
Just an FYI, the Peas, Beans and Lentils are suspect ingredients (may be some more in there, but these are what I know) regarding DCM. Surprised your vet recommended such a "boutique" food.
I should have said the Vet recommended this food for the puppy, my wife decided that our adult big dog should be good with it also. I had the talk with her about the majority of guys here that favor the PPP food, maybe we should give it a try. But it sounds like she knows better, and I know from experience when I see that eye roll she is so good at.
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I just switched and am transitioning our dog to Purina Pro plan today
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Originally Posted by schoolsout1 View Post


i think you posted in another thread about this, but my condolences again. There were a few other posts on the FB page where one dog was put down after trying meds and switching foods and another that had a mild case that was, hopefully, caught early enough to reverse.

Worst feeling in the world thinking what we were feeding could have been killing our buddies. I ignored the hype at first, but have come around no way Iím risking it.
I didnít think I posted about it at all but may have. It was a traumatic moment for me, and still very disturbing.
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We buy our bitch the 50lb bag from Costco.


Yellow bag, heavy.

She would eat twigs and rocks if we put it her bowl.

There is no goose, deer or any regional animal dung in our yard. She eats it all.
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Purina Pro Plan fan. 2 very healthy Standard Poodles
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Originally Posted by Resinhead View Post
We buy our bitch the 50lb bag from Costco.


Yellow bag, heavy.

She would eat twigs and rocks if we put it her bowl.

There is no goose, deer or any regional animal dung in our yard. She eats it all.
some times that can be a sign of nutritional deficiency. It can also be behavioral, but if your dog acts hungry all the time and is doing that you may want to talk to your vet about it.
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Originally Posted by ucf_motorcycle View Post


I didnít think I posted about it at all but may have. It was a traumatic moment for me, and still very disturbing.
may have been someone else with a similar story. Which is even more sad.
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Growing up our dog ate gains burgers. Some plastic looking ground beef looking patty dog lived to 14. I feed my dogs Anna Mae salcha. It's the chicken flavored it received a 4.75 out of 5 by a few dog food researchers. My mothers dogs ate beniful and both died of cancer at age 6 but the Newfoundland ate the same food and lived to 12 So much conflicting information on the web
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Pumpkin eats Fromm's large breed puppy food
https://frommfamily.com/

Not a big fan of Purina Pro Plan because they use a fair amount of byproducts (3rd on their ingredient list) in a lot of their products. For example:
https://www.proplan.com/dogs/product...anteedanalysis

Difference between meal and by-products is outlined below.
By-Products vs Meal

Given the continued challenges with our food systems (outbreaks) I'm more than willing to pay a bit more to give my pup higher quality ingredients. Once he gets old enough, I would like to move to raw...but if not, I feel 100% comfortable with the quality of food he's getting from Fromm's.
Old 05-04-2019, 09:18 AM
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Was feeding ours grain free for years. Lost a 12yo Choc Lab in 2012 to DCM but at that time they were't taking about a food related cause for the DCM. I switched my current two to Purina Pro Plan back in January with no issues.
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Here's another vet's position
It?s Not Just Grain-Free: An Update on Diet-Associated Dilated Cardiomyopathy ? Clinical Nutrition Service at Cummings School
Old 05-04-2019, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TechieTechie View Post
Pumpkin eats Fromm's large breed puppy food
https://frommfamily.com/

Not a big fan of Purina Pro Plan because they use a fair amount of byproducts (3rd on their ingredient list) in a lot of their products. For example:
https://www.proplan.com/dogs/product...anteedanalysis

Difference between meal and by-products is outlined below.
By-Products vs Meal

Given the continued challenges with our food systems (outbreaks) I'm more than willing to pay a bit more to give my pup higher quality ingredients. Once he gets old enough, I would like to move to raw...but if not, I feel 100% comfortable with the quality of food he's getting from Fromm's.

there is is nothing wrong with by products. Fromm has its own issues...

also, Dogfoodadvisor has zero credibility...look into what the guy that runs it does. He’s not qualified...lol?
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Originally Posted by schoolsout1 View Post
Fromm has its own issues...
Curious...can you elaborate?

I know they had 1 recall in 2016...but from what I can read, it's the only one they have had in 40+ years. I think that's a pretty good record.



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My 8 year old Shepherd, like most of the breed, has a very sensitive stomach. We went through about a dozen tries before we got one that keeps her stool firm and her coat shiny with minimal shedding. Part of the challenge is we also have a 10 year old mini pincher who also has a sensitive stomach. So we had to find something they both do well with as they often eat out of each other’s bowls.......the solution has been Taste of the Wild....grain free. Lamb....

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