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Old 05-02-2019, 12:08 PM
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Nope, House of Tyrell paid off most the the debt the Kingdom already accumulated. That is why the Iron Bank said they are now allowed to take out another loan. Iron Bank is investing their money in Cersei, but I find it peculiar that they fear no one so they have serious means of getting their money back. Golden Company being one method but the wierd part is House Lannister always uses the motto a Lannister always pays their debt. The Iron Bank always says The Iron Bank always has its dues.
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Old 05-02-2019, 12:13 PM
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Never Saw Lady Tyrell die after taking potion. I think she kills Cersai
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Old 05-02-2019, 01:39 PM
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I told someone months ago that Arya would be the one to kill the NK...hell I didn't even believe myself.

As for the "dark" episode...I watched the broadcast on Sunday night on a Samsung LED. I never adjusted anything, but I did watch it in total darkness...it was fine. It was Monday when I started reading the many online complaints about it being too dark did I even realize there was an issue. We re-watched it Monday night on another Samsung LED (again, with most ambient lights turned off) and experienced the same as we did Sunday night...no issues. I watched it for the third time this afternoon on the same TV that I did on Sunday night. That TV is sitting beside a wall of south facing windows...so basically mid-afternoon, full sunlight. It was dark. I looked at my brightness settings and they were 45/100 so I went up to 70/100 and I was able to see it just fine.

It was a night battle. I really don't think there was any other way to shoot it. They gave it light when it was believeable, but a good part of it was shot where light would not have been naturally present. They wanted the audience to grasp the fact that the dead never rest...they fight at any time, and you had better be ready whenever that is.

I'm in the group of those that don't see an issue with the "darkness". I have watched it three times on two different TVs in total darkness & in full daylight. No issues here.

Now, back to Arya. I don't get the confusion as to how she could have been the one to kill the NK. This was my first prediction after S7 ended. Yes, Arya was in the castle...but that's why she took off running...she knew it was her that had to save Bran. It was her stealth & speed/quickness that got her by the Walkers and on the NK so fast.

Like alot of people, I would like to have seen Jon fight the NK. But think about it...Jon rarely finishes a job. It's someone else who is always bailing him out in the end. He is a good leader, yes. He just has an issue with getting the job completed.

The only thing I know for sure is that Theon came full circle. Hated to see him die, but he had to for the whole NK scenario to play out...and Bran knew that. As Michael Clarke Duncan put it in Armageddon, "Yo, Theon, you the man."
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Old 05-02-2019, 02:01 PM
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Panasonic Viera Plasma here and it looked farking awesome.
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Old 05-02-2019, 02:06 PM
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Now, back to Arya. I don't get the confusion as to how she could have been the one to kill the NK. This was my first prediction after S7 ended. Yes, Arya was in the castle...but that's why she took off running...she knew it was her that had to save Bran. It was her stealth & speed/quickness that got her by the Walkers and on the NK so fast.
Idk if it's canon for the show, but in the books there's a good bit about the fact that from parts of the castle Bran could get on a tree limb and travel in the trees to the weirwood. New and improved Arya could certainly handle that.
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Old 05-02-2019, 04:11 PM
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Visio led here, watched it in the dark sunday, it was dark. For kicks last night I went to menu-picture and changed it from standard to calibrated. Was much better, could see what was going on no problem
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Old 05-03-2019, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sealion2288 View Post
I believe there will be huge changes there and Samuel Tarly will be the new grand maester. That's why he has survived
Danny did tell Sam she'll have to make changes at the citadel once she takes the throne. Sam doesn't really like her very much now, though. And by the looks of the preview, Danny is marching on to Kingslanding as if she's still the one who's going to sit on the throne and not Jon Sn...sorry, Aegon Targaryen. lol

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Arya teaches Sansa to be a "faceless man" in a crash course basically just enough to wear a face. Sansa takes Jamie's face to get close to Cersei and removes it revealing herself just long enough for Cersei to see it was Sansa that kills her. I do not think that will happen at all just a thought on how it could be sansa
So Jaime dies then? They never mentioned anything about the physical aspects of wearing other faces in all those episodes inside the House of Black and White, but you would think that there has to be some physical compatibility to wearing someone's face. All the times we saw someone wearing another face was with someone who had similar physical statures, even though they can apparently change sexes like when Arya wore Walder Frey's face, still, he was about the same height as her, wasn't he? So like you said, she couldn't wear the face of someone much taller than her (and she's pretty short compared to Sansa) but Sansa could wear Jaime's face, for sure. They were very careful with that if you noticed. Anyone, from Jaqen H'gar to the Waif to even Arya all wore faces of people who had similar, physical sizes.

There's a whole other problem with Jaime Lanister and his character development through the entire season. There was almost never any purpose for him and his character was somewhat insignificant if he hadn't pushed Bran out the window. Other than that, he loses a hand and becomes even more worthless. I can see why he was complaining about his character's function in this last season in that link someone posted. Sounds like he is gonna get it someway or another. Maybe Bronn?

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I told someone months ago that Arya would be the one to kill the NK...hell I didn't even believe myself.
Like alot of people, I would like to have seen Jon fight the NK. But think about it...Jon rarely finishes a job. It's someone else who is always bailing him out in the end. He is a good leader, yes. He just has an issue with getting the job completed.
If you look at all the TV reviews and analysis and YouTube reactions etc., it's a common theme. We're not the only ones (many of us on this board) who were very disappointed with not only the way the Night King died (which is the biggest one), but also at Jon Snow and essentially how useless he was in that entire battle. He made a couple of moves with the dragon against the NK but other than that? And what was he going to do at the end when he stood up in front of Viserion?! Did you catch that? Was he giving up at that point and just going to let the dragon blast him with ice fire? That didn't make any sense at all. Interested to see what you or anyone else thinks of that crucial moment.
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Originally Posted by magua View Post
Panasonic Viera Plasma here and it looked farking awesome.
Yep same here. VT60 custom calibrated. Yes it was dark, but no problems seeing what was going on.

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Danny did tell Sam she'll have to make changes at the citadel once she takes the throne. Sam doesn't really like her very much now, though. And by the looks of the preview, Danny is marching on to Kingslanding as if she's still the one who's going to sit on the throne and not Jon Sn...sorry, Aegon Targaryen. lol



So Jaime dies then? They never mentioned anything about the physical aspects of wearing other faces in all those episodes inside the House of Black and White, but you would think that there has to be some physical compatibility to wearing someone's face. All the times we saw someone wearing another face was with someone who had similar physical statures, even though they can apparently change sexes like when Arya wore Walder Frey's face, still, he was about the same height as her, wasn't he? So like you said, she couldn't wear the face of someone much taller than her (and she's pretty short compared to Sansa) but Sansa could wear Jaime's face, for sure. They were very careful with that if you noticed. Anyone, from Jaqen H'gar to the Waif to even Arya all wore faces of people who had similar, physical sizes.

There's a whole other problem with Jaime Lanister and his character development through the entire season. There was almost never any purpose for him and his character was somewhat insignificant if he hadn't pushed Bran out the window. Other than that, he loses a hand and becomes even more worthless. I can see why he was complaining about his character's function in this last season in that link someone posted. Sounds like he is gonna get it someway or another. Maybe Bronn?



If you look at all the TV reviews and analysis and YouTube reactions etc., it's a common theme. We're not the only ones (many of us on this board) who were very disappointed with not only the way the Night King died (which is the biggest one), but also at Jon Snow and essentially how useless he was in that entire battle. He made a couple of moves with the dragon against the NK but other than that? And what was he going to do at the end when he stood up in front of Viserion?! Did you catch that? Was he giving up at that point and just going to let the dragon blast him with ice fire? That didn't make any sense at all. Interested to see what you or anyone else thinks of that crucial moment.
I completely understand that MANY wanted Jon to kill the NK...the story line led everyone to believe it might happen that way. But this show is notorious for it's "surprise", and not giving you what you thought/wanted. So the real surprise is really no big surprise. Personally, I always thought Arya was training for more than simply killing those on her list.

Jon & Viserion indeed ended in a strange way. Was he thinking that the Targaryen in him could control a Wight dragon? Hell if I know. He tried to get to him several times...I guess to kill him with Valyrian Steel. But that last shot was just strange.

So here is what I would like to see at the beginning of E4 (wishful thinking, but would make for good TV and fan service).

E3 ended with Melisandre taking off her necklace. I would like to see E4 start off immediatly with Davos picking up that necklace and putting it back on Mel to save her. Then I would like to see her raise Jorah and Theon. They may not have a 'purpose', but it'd be nice to see them come back. I understand that this is a bit delusional, but it would be great fan service to see those three back into the Game.

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I still wonder if Jon thought he screamed Viserion to death. Episode 5 is supposed to be “bigger” than E3 via Emilia Clarke...guess we’ll see.
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I read somewhere that if you pay close attention when Jon is yelling at Visereon he is actually yelling "go" and people think he is talking to Arya...I have yet to go back and re-watch it.
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Originally Posted by Heathen86 View Post
I still wonder if Jon thought he screamed Viserion to death. Episode 5 is supposed to be “bigger” than E3 via Emilia Clarke...guess we’ll see.
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I read somewhere that if you pay close attention when Jon is yelling at Visereon he is actually yelling "go" and people think he is talking to Arya...I have yet to go back and re-watch it.
This kind of explains it:

https://www.popsugar.com/entertainme...-King-46093934

My jury is still out on it. Part of me doesn't believe. The other part kinda wonders why he would just stand there yelling at the dragon. So maybe that's it. Problem is the producers did a really crappy job of making it noticeable.
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Old 05-03-2019, 12:13 PM
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Oh and the white walkers might not be gone:

https://decider.com/2019/05/03/game-...788.1556910404
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Jon screaming "Go" is plausible. I have heard that theory on other forums a few times. I've also watched the episode four times and still never caught it. BUT watching that video clip above a few times...it could be. If he was screaming 'go', it would have helped for them to make it a bit more clear & possibly given us a glimpse of Arya. Right after that you can hear the wind as she whips passed the Walkers in all of her Faceless glory...so she was streaking, that is for sure.

Regardless...I doubt the Walkers are finished. They weren't finished 1,000 years ago after their defeat during the Long Night, and they likely aren't done this time either. I'm not sure they will be any type of factor in the show, but I do believe we will see that their legacy "lives" on.
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One of the dragons is dinged up




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Very possible that he was yelling GO and it actually does sound like it. The same "Go go go" he yelled at Danny at the frozen lake to fly off before the Night King javelined Drogon as well. But there was no indication whatsoever that Arya was anywhere near him or that he saw or looked in her direction. I only noticed that Jon saw Sam getting squashed by dead and was about to die and I was surprised he ignored him at first, but then Bran was more important to him than Sam I suppose and he had to make that decision quickly.

If he did yell go to Arya, I hope they do mention it in the next upcoming episode so we can put the "useless factor" to rest. Oh, and I really hope there's no more White Walkers. The Night King created them and if he's dead, they all should be, gonzo. I think Benioff and Weiss just don't give out any information whatsoever until the entire season is over and understandably so. They want to keep it as suspenseful as possible and also keep us guessing and theorizing and so they weren't gonna answer that question on Jimmy Kimmel lmfao!
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I guess I was wrong...I thought Arya put on a white walker face. When the NK went to grab his ice sword to strike Bran, one of the white walker generals turns and looks. I thought this was Arya that realized she had to strike right then and so went to attack. I figured this was how she got so close. I assumed she took off the face before trying to strike the NK.

but I haven’t seen mention of this anywhere.
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Started watching last season - I thought that was a good battle except letting the calvary get chewed up at the start of the battle though as them things just come back to life I guess it wouldn't have mattered . The dagger that killed snow cone was something special ? ...I saw she had it forged . The dragon girl had a funny bit on snl a couple weeks ago at around 2 min .

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Started watching last season - I thought that was a good battle except letting the calvary get chewed up at the start of the battle though as them things just come back to life I guess it wouldn't have mattered . The dagger that killed snow cone was something special ? ...I saw she had it forged . The dragon girl had a funny bit on snl a couple weeks ago at around 2 min .

https://youtu.be/xcg_e-FY_Vs
The dagger used on the snow cone was the same Valyrian Steel dagger used in S1E2 by a cat's-paw to try and kill her brother, Brandon. This is the same dagger that Littlefinger gave to Brandon, and Brandon in turn gave to Arya as he knew she would use it to kill 'ol snow cone.
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I guess I was wrong...I thought Arya put on a white walker face. When the NK went to grab his ice sword to strike Bran, one of the white walker generals turns and looks. I thought this was Arya that realized she had to strike right then and so went to attack. I figured this was how she got so close. I assumed she took off the face before trying to strike the NK.

but I haven’t seen mention of this anywhere.
There were many that thought Arya would wear a Walker's face, but that would have been extremely difficult. You can't kill them except to destroy them. The only one's we had ever seen killed before S8E3 had shattered into glass when struck by Valyrian steel and/or dragon glass. Not the best scenario for skinning their face off.

The scene you are referring to actually shows the Walker looking as Arya streaks past his ass...she was moving so fast that his hair blew and you could hear the wind as she went by. Homegirl isn't just stealthy, but she's also quick as hell.
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