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Old 02-11-2019, 03:48 PM
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I am very interested in 100+ fathom drops. I would love to learn new techniques, rigs, etc., as well as see pictures of success stories in the Carolinas for the 2019 year from other THT members. We are talking Mesopelagic Zone (656 feet to 3,281 feet aka Twilight Zone) for Barrel Fish, Escolar, Golden Tiles, Snowys, Swords, Wreckfish, and other sea monsters of the deep.

I've only deep dropped one time this year out of the 4 trips I've been on, due to conditions, but to get this thread started, here are my first deep critters of the year, tasty Blackbelly Rose Fish. Was prospecting for Golden Tiles in 175 - 225 fathoms.


Looking forward to seeing what others do in the deep.
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Subscribed! Working on the boat now and getting ready. The deepest we have bounced bottom in the past has been 300-400' (got a new bottom machine now)
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:45 PM
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We will definitely be trying some deep dropping this year. It will be a new learning experience for me.
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I've tried it in your back yard many times xfernal. Andy and Tim showed me the ropes. They wrote the book so to speak.

It is tough... lots of current out there most days. 10 pounds of weight are not uncommon.

Golden Tiles never got crossed off of my list.
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I have only dropped in my trips to Bimini. It gets easily addicting. Upgraded my reels and adding another plug to the boat this winter. Need to learn some spots locally as well.
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Waiting to get my Banax combo bent over this year. Always been on the bucket list and finally decided to get a basic setup. Hoping to try it out during mahi season while we’re out there. What are you mostly using weight wise to 600ft-800ft? Thinking of going offshore of blackjack and finding some areas since well already be there kinda thing
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Originally Posted by HeadHunt View Post
I've tried it in your back yard many times xfernal. Andy and Tim showed me the ropes. They wrote the book so to speak.

It is tough... lots of current out there most days. 10 pounds of weight are not uncommon.

Golden Tiles never got crossed off of my list.
You are right about that! Andy and Tim on Good Times consistently brings in the deep critters, and arguably the most successful deep drop bottom fishing charter boat in Hatteras. I have not fished with them yet, but need to.

Yes, lots of current. Up to 5 knots of current on the last couple trips this month kept us from even trying. It has consistently been choppy out in the deep with the NE winds and the fast SW current as well. I find myself using 8 to 12 pounds for the 150 - 300 fathom drops. I've got a 16 pounder for those 3-4 knot current days and/or up to 500 fathoms deep.

I fished on a commercial boat a few days deep dropping last year. Here are a few highlights.





Really looking forward to more days out there on my boat this year.



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These three (Queen, Rose, and Barrell) all in same spot in consecutive passes at 1,000 feet. 8 lb lead, full squids. Gulf stream in Florida Straits (not HI, but in your depth range).
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Xfernal, I tried to get into this last year. Got all geared up, but never really made any drops because I like trolling so much, and I usually had others on the boat looking for mahi, wahoo, and tunas. I love trying new stuff. I've got an Airmar R599 ducer on my boat, and electric reel, etc, etc, but you gotta put your time in just like anything else. I will definitely give it a whirl this year. Are there queen snapper this far north (Southport to Hatteras) or is that just a Florida thing?
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Originally Posted by Wickedfisha View Post
Waiting to get my Banax combo bent over this year. Always been on the bucket list and finally decided to get a basic setup. Hoping to try it out during mahi season while we’re out there. What are you mostly using weight wise to 600ft-800ft? Thinking of going offshore of blackjack and finding some areas since well already be there kinda thing

That'll work! More of the good stuff starts opening up in May with the Snowys and maybe we will get another Wreckfish season in June.

I like the 6 pound weights for the 100-150 fathom (600 - 900') if the current is not too strong. While the lead/iron sash weights get to the bottom quicker, I've been making some 4" wide PVC/Concrete weights that have worked well. The lead weights seem to get stuck more often in the deep mud and rocks, whereas the PVC ones seem slightly more buoyant and easier to skip across the bottom in my opinion. Hurts your feeling to lose a lead weight with the cost these days. I can make the PVC version, including rounded cap on bottom, stainless eye hooks, and concrete for around $5 each.

There are definitely some nice Snowys between Blackjack and Steeples along that ledge. I suspect there are some Golden Tiles offshore of that as well. To the South and east of Winyah Scarp there are some good Golden Tile holes.


Looking forward to see what you catch.

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Originally Posted by claluja View Post
These three (Queen, Rose, and Barrell) all in same spot in consecutive passes at 1,000 feet. 8 lb lead, full squids. Gulf stream in Florida Straights (not HI, but in your depth range).
Nice catch! I know we get the Barrel fish here. Still waiting to catch one of those myself, but I got some good ideas where to look for them. I have heard of only 1 Queen being caught down to the south off Hatteras, but there are really few people that fish in the depths were they are most likely found. I suspect there may be a better chance of them South of MHC out deep.
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Originally Posted by seachicken27 View Post
Xfernal, I tried to get into this last year. Got all geared up, but never really made any drops because I like trolling so much, and I usually had others on the boat looking for mahi, wahoo, and tunas. I love trying new stuff. I've got an Airmar R599 ducer on my boat, and electric reel, etc, etc, but you gotta put your time in just like anything else. I will definitely give it a whirl this year. Are there queen snapper this far north (Southport to Hatteras) or is that just a Florida thing?
I hear ya and completely understand. It is hard to leave fish in shallow to go hunt them in the deep, but luckily off Hatteras it isn't a far run from shallow to real damn deep.

What do you have the Airmar hooked up to?

Only heard of 1 Queen south of Hatteras and north of Lookout/MHC, and he could have been lost or a long way from home. I suspect there may be more south of MHC and into SC, but maybe someone can chime in to tell us. Would love to catch one and hear they are tasty as well.

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We just started this past season. Did pretty good on the snowies and bluelines out of Morehead. Didn't do any fishing out past 100 fathoms though. Definitely interested in trying to catch a golden tile and whatever else might be out that deep.
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I am very interested in giving it a shot. Golden Tile is on my list!

If anyone wants to give it a try on a few boats and work together, I would be interested. Boat is on a trailer and willing to try anywhere from Charleston up to Morehead City
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used to do it all the time off SC, but regs pretty much stopped that. Snowies, big eye toros, warsaws and bluelines were common catches for us out to about 7-800'
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Subscribed. If anyone has any questions about rigs/rigging, I would be happy to share what I know.
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I've caught a 38lb Golden off Hatteras, some nice snowy's, 1-wreckfish and several of the black belliy rosefish, but its just something I have a hard time doing. I enjoy hearing the outrigger clips pop more. Anything caught deep is a lot of time and work plus the current has to be just right to do it.
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Just bought a tanacom and planning to try 300-400 foot first.
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If your rod is in a rodholder you need to have the right weight for the LBS and elasticity of the rod.
The rod tip must move slowly with the boats rolling by waves but be enough sensible to show the short frequency bites of 2-6 lbs snappers.
I have 2 Kristalfishing XL801 with a Kristal Fishing 80LBS rod and used 4 lbs long bar weights pured by me or thick rebars and they worked fine.
Depth was 1000-1500 feet
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Originally Posted by Squid Row View Post
I am very interested in giving it a shot. Golden Tile is on my list!

If anyone wants to give it a try on a few boats and work together, I would be interested. Boat is on a trailer and willing to try anywhere from Charleston up to Morehead City
There are some good spots in NC for sure, but I got lots of good data down in SC from a retired commercial bottom fisherman. In the image below, between to 2 red lines is where most of the Golden Tiles can be found. There is a ledge that runs the whole SC coast down there that is loaded with Golden Tiles.



Good luck, hope you find them.
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