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Old 06-20-2019, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ports2016 View Post
the big Tiles arent necessariy deeper. They do not tolerate temperature changes well and will move to get in their comfort range. Learned that from Tim Tanghare in Cape May. In 1882 they couldnt make it to a comfortable range and many of them died. If you goole there is a good article on it.
We need a thermometer with a long wire!
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:19 PM
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We need a thermometer with a long wire!
I usually just take a leak...how do you think I knew there was mud down there where the tiles were?
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ports2016 View Post
the big Tiles arent necessariy deeper. They do not tolerate temperature changes well and will move to get in their comfort range. Learned that from Tim Tanghare in Cape May. In 1882 they couldnt make it to a comfortable range and many of them died. If you goole there is a good article on it.
I have talked with many different fishermen in the Mid Atlantic and they indeed do catch more Golden Tiles in shallower water. Obviously the water is a little cooler North of Diamond Shoals, so that makes sense. However, in the Hatteras area with the consistent warmer water, our Golden Tiles are much deeper. I wish were were fortunate to find them shallower here, but that's just not the case. I am not sure how deep they are in SC, but with the warmer water, I suspect just as deep off Hatteras.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:44 PM
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The studies I’ve read off our coast were in 6-800’

we were on the northern part of one of the studies. More were caught 20-30 miles south of us.
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Ive read the same - the biggest tiles during remote and manned dives were found in 600-800ft.

Monday I leave Montauk on a 5 day trip on the Viking Starship on former world record holder Mark Kaminski's yearly charter. Last trip 2 weeks ago Steven Jr had fish to 52 lbs on the Fivestar. Hopefully he shared with his father where he was and we go there and we find even bigger ones. I just hope for 2lb drops. I can do three or 4 but once it gets to 5 I am done. I won't use an electric unless I am helping someone commercial fishing which I havent done in years. The sound annoys me. Im 80-100 miles from land and dont want to feel like I am at the dentist. I'll report how we do when we get back.


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Old 06-21-2019, 03:57 AM
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"The sound annoys me. I'm 80-100 miles from land and don't want to feel like I am at the dentist." LOL!

That is definitely a downside to the electrics.
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Finally managed a sword out of Oregon Inlet! 61 1/2 inches in 1340 feet of water.



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Old 06-24-2019, 07:43 PM
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Nice work! That’s awesome! Did you hand crank it?

We are headed to the keys Saturday, and we are trying for our first down there. Hopefully we get lucky.
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That’s awesome! Congrats
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Nice work! That’s awesome! Did you hand crank it?

We are headed to the keys Saturday, and we are trying for our first down there. Hopefully we get lucky.

Nope, not hand cranked. Caught on a Daiwa 1200MJ. 65 lb 832 braid and a Texas Blue wind on leader. (Thanks again Doug!!) The reel did great with a fish this size. Not one hiccup at slow speed. The bait was a strip of false albacore with a black and purple skirt. Two flashing lights (blue and green) 50 feet from the bait.

We were in very little current, so we were using a breakaway concrete weight. We'd had several good bites at this point, but no hook ups. This was our 5th drop and we really had a hard time getting the weight to break away for some reason. I decided to drop it into the mud and then drive the boat forward to drag it along the bottom to snap it off. It snapped off and the fish immediately started whacking the bait. I think all the commotion in the mud must have fired him up.

I lifted the bait 50 feet and dropped it 50 feet several times and he kept whacking it. Finally the rod doubled over and we got a perfect hookup in the bone at the corner of the mouth.

He jumped three times. One real nice jump, and two head out of the water slashing his bill back and forth jumps. Pretty dang dramatic!

Took almost exactly one hour to get the harpoon and gaffs into him.

It is not the biggest fish I've ever caught, but it took two years of researching and probably 25 drops (with several monumental screw ups and tangles) over those two years to finally get this sword.
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Question for Xfernal.

Since the Golden tilefish season is closed for us, how much risk is there of accidentally catching one while looking for Snowy grouper out of Hatteras Inlet? Any tips on how to avoid this? I'd still like to go out of Hatteras for some grouper fishing, but I'd hate to drag a golden all the way up. I have one of the Seaqualizer fish release devices, and it does seem to work, but I think that at those kinds of depths the fish may end up dead, even if promptly sent back down.
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Not as experienced as Xfernal but goldens are in mud and snow is will be over structure. You’ll have a better chance of catching a blue line as opposed to a golden.
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Not as experienced as Xfernal but goldens are in mud and snow is will be over structure. You’ll have a better chance of catching a blue line as opposed to a golden.

OK, good deal. Thanks.
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Great work Ken! Congratulations to you and crew!
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Great work Ken! Congratulations to you and crew!

Thanks bud. We'll get out and try for another! I just hope it doesn't take as long this time. LOL
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Old 07-01-2019, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Capt. Fred View Post
Question for Xfernal.

Since the Golden tilefish season is closed for us, how much risk is there of accidentally catching one while looking for Snowy grouper out of Hatteras Inlet? Any tips on how to avoid this? I'd still like to go out of Hatteras for some grouper fishing, but I'd hate to drag a golden all the way up. I have one of the Seaqualizer fish release devices, and it does seem to work, but I think that at those kinds of depths the fish may end up dead, even if promptly sent back down.

Congrats on the Sword.

If you stay shallower than 135 fathoms, the likelihood of catching a Golden Tile will be very small out of Hatteras, despite what anyone up north or south of Hatteras might tell you.
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Old 07-01-2019, 01:51 PM
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So we were dropping hi/lo rigs in 150', catching triggers, rock hind and small grouper yesterday in Abaco. My wife caught this grouper and I wanted to see what y'all thought this is. We've got 2 banax 1000s and some of Texas blue's rigs and we are going to try some spots tomorrow off of Elbow Cay. Any help would be appreciated.
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First Snowy
Got my first snowy last week. Didn’t weigh it but was pretty stoked. The tanacom did well in 700’
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First Snowy? Absolutely awesome. You set a good bar for yourself now! Congrats
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