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OBX offshore spearing- is it a thing?

Old 01-15-2019, 07:11 AM
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Default OBX offshore spearing- is it a thing?

I started a thread in the spearfishing section, but thought would ask some here also.

I've jumped over with my snorkel gear and gopro along the summer weedlines out of Hatteras/Oregon Inlet a couple times and thought how cool it would be to try stalking some mahi and hoos that way. Does anyone do this, or just generally a dumb idea?? I know you could also walk across the dusky's out there sometimes, but no idea if they would actually be a problem or not? I want to have fun, but don't need a Darwin award.
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Old 01-15-2019, 07:23 AM
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What could go wrong? Lol. You might be alright in the clear blue water but I wouldnt even think about it in green water.
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:25 AM
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Most of the people that I see spearfishing go on wrecks and the towers. Give it a shot on the grass lines and let me know how it works out. Be ready to deal with sharks as thick as they are out there.
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:35 AM
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I've had to overboard a couple of times to cut crap out of the wheels and the boat drifted into the grass lines. Dolphin will definitely come check out what you're doing, along with clouds of tilefish, triggers and everything else hiding under the grass. It's when they all suddenly take off that gets the old ticker really pumping!

I was killing a surface interval one day anchored up on the E.M. Clark when a school of yft popped up right behind the boat. We all jumped in and a couple of the divers got some great pics both above and below water. When a 4-500# blue one showed up and startedsgoing after the tuna it was a jaw dropping experience!

All of those times if I'd had a spear gun it would have been easy shots!
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Old 01-15-2019, 10:17 AM
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Most of the people that I see spearfishing go on wrecks and the towers. Give it a shot on the grass lines and let me know how it works out. Be ready to deal with sharks as thick as they are out there.
Haha!! why I'm asking! I know generally sharks don't bother people unless the water is murky in the breakers, or your on a board imitating their favorite meal- but wasn't sure what to think about out there. Them looking mean/scary vs taking a cchunk out of me are two different things, ha! I've seen a 700+(?) pound mako skyrocket 10 or 12 feet in the air 20 feet behind my boat cutting our tuna in half also... so there are those guys too!?

Just sounds like a cool idea, but again I don't want to chase an obviously stupid idea.
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Old 01-15-2019, 10:27 AM
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I've had to overboard a couple of times to cut crap out of the wheels and the boat drifted into the grass lines. Dolphin will definitely come check out what you're doing, along with clouds of tilefish, triggers and everything else hiding under the grass. It's when they all suddenly take off that gets the old ticker really pumping!

I was killing a surface interval one day anchored up on the E.M. Clark when a school of yft popped up right behind the boat. We all jumped in and a couple of the divers got some great pics both above and below water. When a 4-500# blue one showed up and startedsgoing after the tuna it was a jaw dropping experience!

All of those times if I'd had a spear gun it would have been easy shots!
yeah- the couple times I went in for about 4-5 mins each, the amount of small lie was amazing! I haven't seen any gamefish the couple times though- guess that's why I was overboard as we weren't catching anything! Maybe I'll see what they're doing as my shark warning! Think i could install a bicycle rear view mirror on my mask?? ha.

That sounds awesome! Not sure I'm up for making a day of spearing out there (none of my buddies want in the water with me, and would miss the fishing time!), but would love to keep gear on the boat for when an opportunity like that arises.

Guess the question really comes down to if a Dusky is likely to actually try to make a meal of you out there, or just investigate?
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Old 01-15-2019, 10:45 AM
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yeah- the couple times I went in for about 4-5 mins each, the amount of small lie was amazing! I haven't seen any gamefish the couple times though- guess that's why I was overboard as we weren't catching anything! Maybe I'll see what they're doing as my shark warning! Think i could install a bicycle rear view mirror on my mask?? ha.

That sounds awesome! Not sure I'm up for making a day of spearing out there (none of my buddies want in the water with me, and would miss the fishing time!), but would love to keep gear on the boat for when an opportunity like that arises.

Guess the question really comes down to if a Dusky is likely to actually try to make a meal of you out there, or just investigate?
One of those times we were bailing dolphin and the guys kept at it while I was under the boat cutting. They weren't bothered by me but I didnt do a cannonball either.

After years of running dive charterchthere was only one time a shark got aggressive and that was a big bull shark. He would have taken a big chunk out of a girl's leg if I hadn't dragged her up the ladder (she never saw him coming straight up free om below her but everyone else did!).

In clear blue water where you can see them coming, sharks don't worry most divers. Out in the deep here you may see a rare white or mako but the summer water temps are higher than they like. It's more small blacktips that aren't a concern. If they get too curious smack them in the nose, they'll leave you alone.
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Old 01-15-2019, 11:12 AM
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That does it then... ha. Going to look into getting a cheaper gun to try it out. I keep snorkel gear on the boat anyway, just need to fab a starboard gun holder out of the way. I'll report back in about 6 months or so! Dotrotten said it, what could go wrong, haha. Just wanted to make sure nobody said "that's the dumbest idea I've ever heard"!

See many bulls offshore? I know those guys are real assholes and probably account for 90% of the shark bites. Thinking they stay in closer vs bluewater?
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Old 01-15-2019, 11:43 AM
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It's definitely a thing, there's just not a ton of people that do it. Most people tend to focus on the wrecks and other underwater structure. I'd recommend a gun with a reel attached if you are freediving. Cobia, African pompano, wahoo, and mahi are all speared by freedivers off the NC coast. Bottom dwellers too if you've got the breath for it, but that's usually a scuba thing.
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Old 01-15-2019, 01:57 PM
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There are some cool episodes with Sheri Daye spearfishing off NC on season 3 of Speargun Hunter
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Old 01-15-2019, 02:47 PM
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I have been in a few times while the guys were bailing dolphin. ABSOLUTELY amazing and couldn't imagine being in with a bunch of big game fish. I have also jumped in to release a small marlin and would probably do it again if given the chance. IF I'm going to get it from a shark, I hope its one of those makos running about 200 mph and he makes it clean and fast
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Old 01-15-2019, 02:51 PM
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Here are a few pics, can see some dolphin in the bottom pic. Pretty sure my "camera guy" has some video on his youtube channel.
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Old 01-15-2019, 05:30 PM
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It's definitely a thing! I would highly recommend you do a charter with Capt. Dave Sybert of Vicarious Charters. He's based out of Nags Head, and does "free diving" charters offshore (no scuba gear). I went on a charter within him in 2017, and it was an amazing experience. I just used a hawaiian sling (pole spear), and I could have collected a cooler full of Spadefish. I also saw a bunch of amberjacks, and got a couple of shots at them, but with a pole spear, you don't have much range, so it's a real challenge. One guy on our charter got a shot at a dolphin, but, otherwise, it was just amberjack and spadefish (we were about 12 miles offshore in about 80 feet of water, over an artificial reef. Dave's a great guy, and really knows his stuff. His number is (443) 694-3152. I think he may also be on Facebook, but I don't do facebook.
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Old 01-15-2019, 07:19 PM
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I don't have any personal experience free diving and spearing. But, I did talk to some guys at the dock one day that spear wahoo all the time and had a 5 man limit laid up on the dock all speared. they claimed they came from under a log that was floating around the nipple area and that there was about 100 or so of them schooled up under the log.
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:00 AM
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It's definitely a thing! I would highly recommend you do a charter with Capt. Dave Sybert of Vicarious Charters. He's based out of Nags Head, and does "free diving" charters offshore (no scuba gear). I went on a charter within him in 2017, and it was an amazing experience. I just used a hawaiian sling (pole spear), and I could have collected a cooler full of Spadefish. I also saw a bunch of amberjacks, and got a couple of shots at them, but with a pole spear, you don't have much range, so it's a real challenge. One guy on our charter got a shot at a dolphin, but, otherwise, it was just amberjack and spadefish (we were about 12 miles offshore in about 80 feet of water, over an artificial reef. Dave's a great guy, and really knows his stuff. His number is (443) 694-3152. I think he may also be on Facebook, but I don't do facebook.
Great info!!! I'll definitely try setting something up with him!! that will be a great way to try it out and see if its something I want to do regularly (haha, I'm pretty dam sure I will).

Again- thanks for the info guys!! I'm getting even more anxious for the warm weather now.
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:11 PM
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I'd be a little sketchy about trying it offshore the obx. The sharks have been really bad last couple of years with a lot of tuna not making it to the boats. As many as I have seen, I wouldnt care to try it. Farther down south, you might be okay in the blue water, but tuna and sharks hang together
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People do this all the time including myself. I always bring my spearfishing gear when we go trolling out of VA and NC. Usually find time towards the end of the day to get some action on shooting Mahi around weed lines and have ran into tuna and wahoo but off course didn't have the float line setup big enough to take them. Actually getting in the water around weed lines lets you quickly see what is around so you can stick around or move on even for getting bailers. Its is always good to have a buddy in the water and at least someone who understands what your doing on the boat, things can get hectic shooting fish. I have ran into sharks a few times out of NC both scuba diving wrecks and freediving and the only kind I worry about are the bullsharks. Have had them come darting in from every direction while we were shooting Mahi and it makes things interesting to say the least.
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Old 01-16-2019, 04:13 PM
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I saw a bunch of boats doing this in Panama years ago. It was quite a site to see. They would run the boats wide open to get in front of schools of YFT and jump in with Spears and come up with 50 pounders. Pretty cool to see!
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If youíre afraid of Bullsharks donít dive in the panhandle. Itís like jumping into a war zone last year. Pick up a power head just in case.
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We are planning to do this after sticking the GoPro under the weed lines this fall. We hardly ever see sharks on those lines even when bailing so Iím not too concerned. We will have more than one spearer in the water and a spotter though.

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