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Old 01-16-2019, 06:10 PM
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After fishing out of OI for the last 18 years and some days seeing hundreds of sharks I think I will stay in the boat! Last year was the worst the hammer heads were super thick.
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:16 AM
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40 miles offshore of Beaufort Inlet.

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Old 01-17-2019, 09:51 AM
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Check out spearbord.com there use to be a free-diving tournament off of Hatteras every year
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Dam guys... Is it summer yet?? Got the itch now..
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:40 PM
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Dam guys... Is it summer yet?? Got the itch now..
gulf streams out there all winter.
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Old 01-17-2019, 04:41 PM
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The sharks seem way more obvious out of Oregon Inlet. Like Offshore said above, a few days last year it seemed like there was a big hammerhead every 25 yards. I have had a couple of bad days with sharks out of Hatteras while fishing king mackerel in the fall, but I haven't seen as many sharks out of Hatteras over the years.
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Old 01-17-2019, 05:26 PM
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Y’all need to see the videos and pictures of Captain JT. By far the authority in wreck diving and spear fishing in OBX. He charters out of Hatteras. You can spend hours on his website. The stories he tells about wreck diving in OBX and night spear fishing are Mesmerizing

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Old 01-18-2019, 08:02 PM
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Sounds like a great experience if the weed line is active
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Old 01-18-2019, 08:36 PM
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You might enjoy reading Carlos Eyles' book about the early beginnings of the bluewater hunters:
https://www.amazon.com/Last-Blue-Water-Hunters-Revised/dp/1881652335 https://www.amazon.com/Last-Blue-Water-Hunters-Revised/dp/1881652335
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:10 AM
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Question- how does the pullage of spearing a fish compare to rod and reel? I'm sure shot placement makes all the difference- but say, on average. Curious if as a newbie I should do a float, or reel, or what. Is a decent mahi going to be a struggle to keep them from pulling you around/down? I was thinking that with fins on and being an athletic 230# myself, I should have the upper hand unless I pop a big tuna, ha!!
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Old 01-21-2019, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by iwhitevt View Post
Question- how does the pullage of spearing a fish compare to rod and reel? I'm sure shot placement makes all the difference- but say, on average. Curious if as a newbie I should do a float, or reel, or what. Is a decent mahi going to be a struggle to keep them from pulling you around/down? I was thinking that with fins on and being an athletic 230# myself, I should have the upper hand unless I pop a big tuna, ha!!
that is a good question but if I were to make a guess I think the advantage goes to the fish, I have heard how strong small AJ's were even at 25 pounds, can't wait to hear some experienced chime in

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Old 01-21-2019, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by offshore3144 View Post
After fishing out of OI for the last 18 years and some days seeing hundreds of sharks I think I will stay in the boat! Last year was the worst the hammer heads were super thick.
What few realize is how quick a hammerhead is when its on the hunt. We had two criss crossing a hooked false albacore and its amazing how damn fast they are. Its not the docile creature slowly moving like on the discovery channel.
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Old 01-22-2019, 04:20 AM
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When you spear a big fish, they pull like mad for a short period of time and then let off a lot. That first run is rough though. Like a 35lb aj will drag you down toward the bottom if you don't have any slack to give it. I wouldn't not suggest a reel for open water. A float line is way better for a few reasons. The first is that it let's the boat know where you are. The second is that if you drop your gun, it will keep it from sinking. Third, the floats put the pressure on the fish for you. Spearfishing reels aren't meant to work the same way fishing reels do. You don't fight them from the reel. It's mostly meant to give you enough line to get up to the surface where you fight them by hand. Don't cheap out on a gun. You don't want to be under gunned out there. Stuff seems closer than it actually is. I'd shoot for something at least 120cm. Mako predator is a good brand. Let me know if you have any specific questions.
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Old 01-22-2019, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Will_Dive View Post
When you spear a big fish, they pull like mad for a short period of time and then let off a lot. That first run is rough though. Like a 35lb aj will drag you down toward the bottom if you don't have any slack to give it. I wouldn't not suggest a reel for open water. A float line is way better for a few reasons. The first is that it let's the boat know where you are. The second is that if you drop your gun, it will keep it from sinking. Third, the floats put the pressure on the fish for you. Spearfishing reels aren't meant to work the same way fishing reels do. You don't fight them from the reel. It's mostly meant to give you enough line to get up to the surface where you fight them by hand. Don't cheap out on a gun. You don't want to be under gunned out there. Stuff seems closer than it actually is. I'd shoot for something at least 120cm. Mako predator is a good brand. Let me know if you have any specific questions.
Thanks! I've been eyeing those Mako guns...
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:47 AM
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It's definitely a thing! I would highly recommend you do a charter with Capt. Dave Sybert of Vicarious Charters. He's based out of Nags Head, and does "free diving" charters offshore (no scuba gear). I went on a charter within him in 2017, and it was an amazing experience. I just used a hawaiian sling (pole spear), and I could have collected a cooler full of Spadefish. I also saw a bunch of amberjacks, and got a couple of shots at them, but with a pole spear, you don't have much range, so it's a real challenge. One guy on our charter got a shot at a dolphin, but, otherwise, it was just amberjack and spadefish (we were about 12 miles offshore in about 80 feet of water, over an artificial reef. Dave's a great guy, and really knows his stuff. His number is (443) 694-3152. I think he may also be on Facebook, but I don't do facebook.
May have experienced this Charter out at the Navy tower back in September. Was on site at 7:30 am, had the tower to myself, dolphin breaking on bait everywhere. Caught a few nice fish in the 20-30 lb range instantly. Maybe 30 minutes later the diving charter showed up at that point 6 divers hit the water diving the tower and that was the end of the fish. Pretty sad that a great day was limited to 30-45 mins.
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:29 AM
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that is a good question but if I were to make a guess I think the advantage goes to the fish, I have heard how strong small AJ's were even at 25 pounds, can't wait to hear some experienced chime in
Here are of couple fish I shot around the Navy Tower, 60lb AJ and a nice bull Mahi. Both shot with my 110cm rob allen on float line setup. Shot the AJ at 35 ft and got pulled down a bit, thankfully had a float line so I could easily let go of it. The float did get pulled below surface but eventually the fish got tired and I got him to the surface. I would recommend not using a reel (can get tangled very easy) until you are very comfortable in the water and same with shooting an amberjack, if you have caught big amberjack on hook and line then that can give you idea. I recommend shooting spades and triggerfish till you get comfortable. Also always freedive with a buddy.


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Old 01-30-2019, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by iwhitevt View Post
Question- how does the pullage of spearing a fish compare to rod and reel? I'm sure shot placement makes all the difference- but say, on average. Curious if as a newbie I should do a float, or reel, or what. Is a decent mahi going to be a struggle to keep them from pulling you around/down? I was thinking that with fins on and being an athletic 230# myself, I should have the upper hand unless I pop a big tuna, ha!!
My advice is to go for it, but try to get a buddy or two with some experience to help you out. I wont dive bluewater or other sharky areas without at least 3 divers because you have to be able to protect both the diver and fish once its shot. We shoot cobia right off the backs of bullsharks down here and you can keep doing it all day as long as they dont get one. The first time they tear into a fish the game is over because they get so fired up.

Floats and reels each have their place and floats are king in bluewater but reels are better around the towers/oil rigs or anwhere you might get a floatline tangled up. You can rig your gun with a reel and be able to swap between the reel and a breakaway pretty easily if you do it right. A good starting setup for your conditions would be a 120cm gun with a breakaway float. As others have said, the first run is going to be pretty strong so definitely be prepared for that, but a good shot should take the fight out of a fish fairly quickly. I shot a 30lb permit earlier this month at around 30ft and clamped down on the line to try and horse it to the surface (keep it away from sharks and jewfish). 15 seconds of strong kicking and I was at 40ft so I had to give some slack to make it back up, so make sure you have the ability to do that.

I shoot a mako and a koah and would recommend the mako for a starter. If you get the mako then I recommend throwing out the shaft that comes with it and upgrading to a 7.5 or 8mm shaft (as long as the new generation handles accept them). The amount of energy difference in those over the standard 7mm is very obvious and they dont pretzel as easily on big fish.
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Originally Posted by pablor View Post
Y’all need to see the videos and pictures of Captain JT. By far the authority in wreck diving and spear fishing in OBX. He charters out of Hatteras. You can spend hours on his website. The stories he tells about wreck diving in OBX and night spear fishing are Mesmerizing

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Old 01-30-2019, 01:02 PM
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I really want to get into spearing, but is using SCUBA really frowned apron by people?
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Old 01-31-2019, 06:17 AM
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I really want to get into spearing, but is using SCUBA really frowned apron by people?
I personally do both. I will say it is very frowned upon in most other countries around the world. I do prefer to freedive as its significantly easier to move around in the water, a lot less gear to lug around and more satisfaction when taking the fish. I will say when I scuba on wrecks in NC I do carry a speargun and gig flounder, shoot sea bass, grouper, cubera snapper and well as other fish but this is usually 90 to 120 feet below the surface which is well below my freediving depth and even more so for taking on a fish at the same time. SCUBA is also very cumbersome and loud so getting close to a fish does take skill, most species like grouper will hole up in the wreck and it make it very difficult to shoot and retrieve the fish with all that gear on.
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