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Old 01-07-2019, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nc23mako View Post
The problem lies at the NC Division of Marine Fisheries and not the NCWRC.
The problem doesn't stop at NCDMF. It goes all the way up in NC government.
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Old 01-07-2019, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by glacierbaze View Post
".............. rec groups in this State are scared that a few of these hatchery raised fish will be caught by a commercial fisherman ...."

Tell us again, Rick, what percentage of NC commercially caught stripers are hatchery raised?
Yeah...I hate to feed a troll and that is what Glen is 100%. The guy has zero credibility.

Yep...if you want to review how stocking "gamefish" in coastal waters in NC works out, then striped bass in the CSMA is the perfect example. You can find everything you need to know here-

http://www.ncwaterman.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=79325&title=csma-striped-bass-a-put-and-too-manytake-fishery

The end result is that the DMF is getting ready to shut down your meager take as retribution against the recreational sector for shining the light on this management debacle. You can thank senior DMF employees with heavy commercial bias for the following decision-

http://portal.ncdenr.org/web/mf/nr-93-2018-striped-bass

Marine Fisheries authorities consider no-possession limit for striped bass in central, southern waters

MOREHEAD CITY – The N.C. Division of Marine Fisheries has received the Marine Fisheries Commission’s approval to draft regulations for a no*-possession limit of striped bass in some waters of the state.

The proposal would apply to the Tar, Pamlico and Neuse rivers and other joint and coastal waters of the Central Southern Management Area.

The division recommended developing a supplement to the N.C. Estuarine Striped Bass Fishery Management Plan to include the temporary management measures to protect two year classes of fish while the next plan amendment is being developed. The commission approved the recommendation at its business meeting last week.

The proposed supplement must first be approved by the secretary of the N.C. Department of Environmental Quality before it is developed.

Research has shown that striped bass in these waters are not a self-sustaining population and that fishermen are mainly catching hatchery-raised fish; however, data suggests there have now been two successful spawning years, and those fish need to be protected.

The proposed no-possession regulations would end once the new plan amendment is adopted. The amendment could include the no-possession provision or recommend other management actions.

If necessary approvals are received, the division intends to hold one public meeting on the issue in the Washington area. The supplement would be brought back to the commission for adoption in February, and the regulations would be implemented by the division director through his proclamation authority.
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:58 AM
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Oh boy..... Another THT commercial fishing and gill net bashing thread. My apologies to the OP that your neighbor is somehow catching all YOUR fish....
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:09 AM
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obviously a good number of recs think that since they are willing to spend big bucks to catch a mess of fish then they should have exclusive rights to these resources.
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:32 AM
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Is banning gill nets preventing commercial fisherman from catching fish?? Many other methods of harvesting fish commercially besides gill nets. Gamefish status is the easiest way to get it done because commercials wont budge off gill nets, their stubbornness will be their end.
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ECU_Pirate View Post
Is banning gill nets preventing commercial fisherman from catching fish?? Many other methods of harvesting fish commercially besides gill nets. Gamefish status is the easiest way to get it done because commercials wont budge off gill nets, their stubbornness will be their end.
I have been reading that gillnetters refusing to compromise will lead to the banning of all gillnetting in NC since the day Al Gore invented the internet.
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jaybyrd83ecu View Post
Oh boy..... Another THT commercial fishing and gill net bashing thread. My apologies to the OP that your neighbor is somehow catching all YOUR fish....
l assume that is sarcasm. Does nothing but show weakness.
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Aleon View Post
l assume that is sarcasm. Does nothing but show weakness.
Good assumption. Your original post does nothing but show weakness. You project your inability to catch fish onto someone or something else and lay claim to a wild animal that doesn't have a home or luggage, that can swim freely up and down the coast or out into the ocean like you understand that little critter, and think it will be waiting in your secret spot for you to come catch right back up next time you show up. If he's not it is someone's fault rather than just chocking it up to a not so good day of fishing - it happens.
I'm not wasting my time on your little internet argument on whether inshore nets are right or wrong as if you have ever spent any time participating or learning about the proper method and now think your neighbor is the devil for (legally) fishing in this manner.
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:30 AM
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Couldnít help myself
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jaybyrd83ecu View Post
Good assumption. Your original post does nothing but show weakness. You project your inability to catch fish onto someone or something else and lay claim to a wild animal that doesn't have a home or luggage, that can swim freely up and down the coast or out into the ocean like you understand that little critter, and think it will be waiting in your secret spot for you to come catch right back up next time you show up. If he's not it is someone's fault rather than just chocking it up to a not so good day of fishing - it happens.
I'm not wasting my time on your little internet argument on whether inshore nets are right or wrong as if you have ever spent any time participating or learning about the proper method and now think your neighbor is the devil for (legally) fishing in this manner.
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This is nothing but empty rhetoric, and trying to put words in my mouth. Won't work!
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:35 AM
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Some people just like to say something ,that means nothing, just to say something.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:41 AM
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Carry this crap back to nccomplainaboutcommercialfishingwaterman
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Squid Row View Post
I have been reading that gillnetters refusing to compromise will lead to the banning of all gillnetting in NC since the day Al Gore invented the internet.
I think it will be gone in the next 10-20 years.
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Old 01-07-2019, 04:39 PM
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[QUOTE=Aleon;12112079]2 straight mornings ,no bites. Unbelievable![/QUOTE

i run inshore chArters on the sc/nc line and in nc when Iíve been catching reds and specs and releasing em for weeks all of a sudden in one day the netters show up and the fish and bite is gone . The literally wipe out the population in that small area in a tide change . Makes it hard to be conservation minded when your just rewarding some asshat with a gillnet and a license to steal .
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Old 01-07-2019, 05:00 PM
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Almost zero enforcement and those stealing our resource know it. A small fine and court cost is just the cost of doing business and always will be as long as gill nets are legal.

Tip of the iceberg-

https://www.starnewsonline.com/news/...um-catch-limit
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Old 01-07-2019, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Capt.Ryan View Post
40-50 trout big trout might seem like a lot to some. I know Aleon and where he lives and fish's, and it wouldn't be that tough for him to do it. Where he is talking about is a known trout hot spot this time of year. Problem is when a local gill netter hears that they are stacked up, they usually don't last long in that area. Last week, one of the locals had 3 over 10lbs in one net, not to mention the rest of the fish. Good thing is trout reproduce multiple times a year and grow quick, but it still hurts to see your neighbor beating down the fish you and the rest of the neighbors like to catch a few of.

this I have seen for myself

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and? Thatís still not 40-50 4-6lb trout in a 2 day period. Sir you lost a lot of credibility with that statement with people who know what it takes to catch citation trout on a steady basis. Sorry but thatís just the facts!
the man gave you a sampling of his catch, what more could you want?

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proof is in the pics! very nice
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Old 01-07-2019, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by zigzag View Post
this I have seen for myself



the man gave you a sampling of his catch, what more could you want?



proof is in the pics! very nice
Thanks!
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Old 01-08-2019, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ECU_Pirate View Post
I think it will be gone in the next 10-20 years.
I agree, and hope you're correct. I have a VERY soft spot for the commercial fishing industry, but DAMN they make themselves hard to like.
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I hate to be the one to say it. But, the in shore net draggers do just as much harm if not more.

on the other side of the coin...... Commercial fisherman need to support their families just like we do..

Perhaps, there are other means of harvest beside the indiscriminate net...
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Old 01-08-2019, 04:35 AM
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Keep the present regulations but drastically increase the fines/penalties for breaking the present laws.
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