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Old 10-24-2018, 07:05 AM
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It is interesting that SpaceX has all this junk floating around.... seems like an easy lawsuit for someone that hit one of those things.
Old 10-24-2018, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by GoneNdoneit View Post
Well that ain't worth a whole lot of nothing then but trouble
Might keep a fellow boater from hitting it, at least.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by xfernal View Post
Yes you should have. Apparently the fairings cost around $6,000,000 each. They have made a "net boat" for catching them called Mr. Steven. https://www.space.com/41168-spacex-b...igger-net.html
I got a tour of SpaceX in Hawthorne earlier this year. It's an incredible place. And yes, they are very interested in finding a way to recover the fairings, but catching unpowered space debris with a net the size of a basketball court has so far been been an elusive goal. They are landing boosters now, so I bet they do it soon.
Old 10-24-2018, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Vitamin_Sea View Post
I got a tour of SpaceX in Hawthorne earlier this year. It's an incredible place. And yes, they are very interested in finding a way to recover the fairings, but catching unpowered space debris with a net the size of a basketball court has so far been been an elusive goal. They are landing boosters now, so I bet they do it soon.
Elon Musk is having a very public meltdown, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
Old 10-24-2018, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by N2theblue View Post
Might keep a fellow boater from hitting it, at least.
I concur sir
Old 12-25-2018, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tperkerson View Post
It is interesting that SpaceX has all this junk floating around.... seems like an easy lawsuit for someone that hit one of those things.

I don' think it works that way. I think the judge in your case would chuckle and tell you to look where you are driving right before the banged his gavel and yelled "case dismissed".

You are responsible for operating in a manner that is appropriate for the conditions--meaning going at no-wake speeds where required, operating at a safe boat speed in congested waters or at times of restricted visibility such as at night, and watching for floating or partially submerged debris in your path.
Old 12-27-2018, 02:25 PM
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Come on 2 wet. Such a thing as liability for what you put in other people's path top.

Causing a navigation hazard is no small item in maritime law I would think, same as you spilling a small amount of oil in the water and receiving a huge fine from the CG also.

Liability over cautions in court sometimes.
Old 12-27-2018, 02:39 PM
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Default also all navigation hazards MUST be lighted for night traffic.z

Our court system has come a long way from "proceed at your own risk".

That is a thing of the past since frivolous lawsuits became so popular. The President just signed an Executive Order against frivolous lawsuits that may change the future of said suits.
Old 12-28-2018, 07:14 PM
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Gents,
a close friend is a former Captain (0-6 for those familiar) in the Coast Guard and currnetly writes Maritime Law. I sent him a message and should hear back tomorrow. I will share his insight!!
Old 12-29-2018, 03:57 PM
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So this is what he sent me:

Damage caused by flotsam may be compensable if the owner of the flotsam can be identified and the presence of the flotsam in the water was the result of
the owner's negligence.

The finder of material at sea (whether floating or sunken) does not as a result of that finding acquire ownership in the material. Rather, the finder acquires a claim against the owner for the value of services
rendered. If the finder cannot identify the owner AND agree on compensation for those services, the finder files the claim in federal court in an admiralty action for salvage. The court will determine compensation. If
the owner fails to pay the compensation, the material is awarded to the finder.

A little too late, but may help in the future!

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