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Old 01-10-2018, 03:08 PM
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Just saw on the news that Trump opened up drilling off the east coast! Iím dreaming of fishing the rigs already. Hopefully it will come sooner than later.
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Have you ever visited the southern shores of LA around the Grand Isle area?

I live on the water here in NC and sure as hell do not want that kind of experience.
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Old 01-10-2018, 05:05 PM
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Have you ever visited the southern shores of LA around the Grand Isle area?

I live on the water here in NC and sure as hell do not want that kind of experience.

You mean awesome fishing?
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Old 01-10-2018, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rheist View Post
Have you ever visited the southern shores of LA around the Grand Isle area?

I live on the water here in NC and sure as hell do not want that kind of experience.
Would that experience be possible in Nc?
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:26 AM
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I'm wondering what kind of experience as well...
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Fiveoh View Post
Just saw on the news that Trump opened up drilling off the east coast! Iím dreaming of fishing the rigs already. Hopefully it will come sooner than later.
This is great news, it's tiresome driving to the gulf for no limits!!
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Are you folks serious?

Yes, oil platforms can be easy-to-find artificial reefs, but the slightest mistake can destroy huge swaths of fishing grounds (the environment, in general) for decades, and it doesn't take a "Deepwater Horizon" event to do so.

I retired from that industry, and the leakage of crude oil is routine, but not considered important by those drilling the oil... Just the act of drilling silts up a huge area with subterranean stuff the ocean floor isn't normally exposed to, ruining it.
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:16 AM
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I thought i read somewhere that they are also repealing some of the regs put in place after the BP spill. So not only did they open up drilling, they are making it less safe. This is a giant mistake waiting to happen. Every way of getting or transporting oil eventually has a huge disaster. Tankers crash, pipes leak, oil rigs bust. But who cares, there is a giant corporation out there that needs more money.
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But who cares, there is a giant corporation out there that needs more money.
A giant corporation that donated heavily to Trump, no doubt.
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I'm all for new fishing habitat, less dependence on oil from middle eastern countries and lower oil prices.

Reminds me of debates on landfills. Everyone wants to make trash but no one wants the landfill in their own county/area.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:04 AM
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I'm all for new fishing habitat, less dependence on oil from middle eastern countries and lower oil prices.

Reminds me of debates on landfills. Everyone wants to make trash but no one wants the landfill in their own county/area.
The largest, single driving force for fuel prices is not oil production directly, but the production of ethane gas. It is used to make ethylene, which is the largest volume production commodity in the world. If the ethane production from wells is low, the crude must be further processed, which is expensive, so the cost of all petroleum products increases.

At the moment, interior mainland US oil and gas production is higher in ethane than anywhere else in the world, making the ethylene production cost lower than the landed cost of the ethane raw material, alone, elsewhere.

Because of that global imbalance, the petrochemical companies are making more money than ever, so are pushing to keep that gravy train running.

I don't see how this relates to landfills, but let's not forget that some are generating methane, used for fuel, and all of them will be "raw material mines" in the future!
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Yeah the fishing was GREAT there. I could pick up all the dead fish I wanted from the beach. The USA is no longer dependent upon Middle East oil. There are many many safer and cheaper ways to continue getting our own oil than going the off shore route.
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Of all the exploration/surveys conducted off our coast to date, they have found evidence of viable natural gas deposits off Hatteras, but nothing significant in terms of crude oil. There's been long-term potential for natural gas rigs offshore of Hatteras since the 90s, but the idea that we'll have crude oil rigs pumping out millions of barrels to fight the good fight against OPEC is a bit misinformed.

Here's info on the area of interest off NC coast, called the Manteo Prospect (mainly natural gas):

https://www.boem.gov/uploadedFiles/B...MMS_Report.pdf

BTW, natural gas competes against coal.
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Im not a fan, but I am not entirely up to speed on this subject.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:09 AM
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Chicken Little, the sky is falling! They're not rolling back safety, they're taking hands out of the cookie jar. There will still be safety inspections and requirements. The amount of paperwork, checks and rechecks are out of control! The coast will be fine.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:33 AM
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If there was drilling for oil off NC and an accident occurred, wouldn't the prevailing winds and currents move the mess further offshore and away from land?
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Some of ya'll commenting about the disastrous effects that "could" happen crack me up. I live in Texas and grew up offshore fishing when there were oil rigs every where offshore. Pipeline check points, compressor stations, drilling, natural gas rigs, intersection valve rigs, floaters, etc. The fishing was amazing! Literally catching red snapper on top waters, cobia everywhere ( like hundreds around each platform during the summer), king mackerel skying on bait all around. We never had a single incident off the Texas coast. Then there was the BP oil spill and Obummers regulations. Yes the spill was bad at first but now the LA coast is better than ever fishing wise. But with that spill came the regulations by Obama and the EPA. I used to be able to run from rig to rig every mile or two there was one or five. Used to be there was at time that I could be offshore and never be out of sight of a platform or rig. Now most have been taken down due to regulations. I can run 30 miles without seeing a rig and the fishing has taken a nose dive. Snapper are still here on bottom numbers, but the Cobia are pretty much scarce. Kingfish are hit and miss, mangrove snapper are a rare catch these days, even some of the deep water platforms we marlin fish are being pulled. Bottom line is Oil Platforms are fish friendly and safety is a number one priority by the companies operating them. Accidents equal massive fines, large law suits, bad press, etc these companies do not want those problems.
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You realize that includes ships?
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Originally Posted by Wldmoose View Post
So basically we are 8 years without a spill......longest period based on that data. Is it because of regulations or just luck?
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