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Old 11-14-2017, 03:32 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I'm new to the site but not to boating. I've owned a few but have the opportunity to purchase a 2015 Sea Hunt Islander 196 with only 19 hours for $28,000 (no financing). It still has warranty, etc. and from pictures seems to be a steal.

Thoughts on that price? I can't find them that cheap here (Charleston SC) but wanted to try to get some insight.

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Sounds like a decent enough deal
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That what I was thinking....I know I won't get much use out of it until next Spring/Summer but not sure if I should wait until winter to search for a similar deal or take what I have in front of me.
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I take its a Sea Hunt Ultra 196?

What motor?

New with a 150 should be mid 30's at Chatlee in N.C.
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I take its a Sea Hunt Ultra 196?

What motor?

New with a 150 should be mid 30's at Chatlee in N.C.
Yes, SH Ultra 196 with a 115HP - I'm going to check out Chatlee for sure if I can get a brand new for around $35 with a 150 I'd rather do that.
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I would check. Pretty sure that's pretty close to what it would cost. Plus Yamaha is running the free Yes warranty. So you get 6 years of warranty.

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I thought the Islander was made by Pioneer. And it was a 197.
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Yes, SH Ultra 196 with a 115HP - I'm going to check out Chatlee for sure if I can get a brand new for around $35 with a 150 I'd rather do that.
The "115" may be why they're selling it? Sounds underpowered for a +/- 2,300# (dry weight, based on the 2017(?) model). Add the "53gal. tank" w/fuel and blah, blah, blah and I don't think you're gonna' be very happy with the performance.

I'd pass on it and get the new/er boat with the 150, based on what you're saying.

I really LIKE SH's, but think the 115 is not enough on a 19ft.'er.

Good luck on the hunt!

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I have the 196 Adventurer from Tidewater... With the 115. The specs for the two boat are very similar, and the one great thing about this boat is the rate of fuel burn. She tops out at about 30Mph (gps speed) and on 60 gallons of fuel I normally get a range of around 200 nautical miles on a take of fuel.

I agree it is under powered as it is very sluggish when you have 3 guys and there gear. But the fuel mileage is awesome.

I have looked at the specs for the new Mercury 150, and from everything I see, that guy should get the same fuel burn as the 115. My plan is to repower with the Merc over the next couple of years.

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Old 11-15-2017, 05:15 AM   #10
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If you only getting 30 mph something is wrong with your setup then. Hope you mean Knots? Even then 35 MPH is still slow for your boat.

Here is a bulletin from a 20 foot Robalo with a dry weight of 3,000 pounds. Much heavier than the TW and SH. Boat does almost 37 mph.

I would expect your boat to be close to 40 mph with a 115 WOT.



RPM


MPH


GPH


MPG


1000 4.2 0.4 10.5
1500 5.9 0.7 8.43
2000 6.8 1.1 6.18
2500 8.3 1.9 4.37
3000 9.7 2.9 3.35
3500 14.8 3.9 3.8
4000 21.7 4.8 4.52
4500 26.3 6 4.38
5000 29.7 7.2 4.13
5500 33.4 8.4 3.98
6050 36.8 10.4 3.54
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If you only getting 30 mph something is wrong with your setup then. Hope you mean Knots? Even then 35 MPH is still slow for your boat.

Here is a bulletin from a 20 foot Robalo with a dry weight of 3,000 pounds. Much heavier than the TW and SH. Boat does almost 37 mph.

I would expect your boat to be close to 40 mph with a 115 WOT.



RPM


MPH


GPH


MPG


1000 4.2 0.4 10.5
1500 5.9 0.7 8.43
2000 6.8 1.1 6.18
2500 8.3 1.9 4.37
3000 9.7 2.9 3.35
3500 14.8 3.9 3.8
4000 21.7 4.8 4.52
4500 26.3 6 4.38
5000 29.7 7.2 4.13
5500 33.4 8.4 3.98
6050 36.8 10.4 3.54

Not trying to derail this thread from jstamps33, but to answer your question, I actually top out at about 32mph (GPS speed) not knots. I have tried three separate props, and have smart tabs. you're correct, everyone tells me that my set up should push me closer to 40mph, but it just doesn't happen. Yes, I have been operating boats for 30 years, and even had a buddy of mine who races boats run it, and could not get above 32mph. She is slow... so I have learned to live with that. However, that is until I put the Mercury 150 on her, and then she should go much quicker.


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Still something isn't right. If you tried different props then something else is the problem.

Because your boat weighs 1,000 pounds less than the Robalo. The Robalo almost hit 37 mph.

With a light load you should have no problems hitting 39 to 40 mph.

Here is a Nautic Star CC 19 footer with a 115 at 2100 pounds dry weight. Boat hit 40 mph.



1000 3.9 0.5 7.8
1500 5.4 0.9 6
2000 6.6 1.4 4.71
2500 7.8 2.2 3.55
3000 12.7 2.7 4.7
3500 21.1 3.3 6.39
4000 25.9 4.2 6.17
4500 30.5 5.3 5.76
5000 34 6.6 5.15
5500 36.9 8.5 4.34
6200 40.5 10.6 3.82

Same boat with a 90. Still a lot faster than your boat and heavier.


1000 4 0.4 10
1500 5.3 0.7 7.57
2000 6.5 1.1 5.91
2500 7.7 1.9 4.05
3000 9.4 2.9 3.24
3500 16.6 3.4 4.88
4000 22.4 4.3 5.21
4500 26 5 5.2
5000 29.7 6.3 4.71
5500 32.9 7.7 4.27
5950 35.9 9.4 3.82


Somewhere there is a problem with your setup. You are easily 8 mph slower than you should be. That's way way off. If the motor is running correctly its under more of a load than it should be.

Wonder if you got water in the boat? Motor height and prop wrong? Defect in the HULL.

I looked at reports with a 90hp on similar boats going 36 to 37 mph.

I would really look for why your boat is so slow. Trying to ever sell it that way isn't going to be easy.

Just to get 25 mph I would assume you have to run the boat around 5,000 rpms? That's way to many RPMS to achieve only 25 mph.

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All hulls do not perform the same. Have seen same hull with same motor and prop and same rpm be off 5 MPH. It might be the hull design or finish of glass on that model. Some models are a lot slower with 1 guy added during ride and some do not change. 20 to 25 gallons of gas is like adding another guy. On some models moving a battery from back of boat to middle to front can change your MPH. I have seen some in the 17 to 20' range change MPH by moving a guy to other side of boat.
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Tidewater bulletin for a 198 tidewater with a 115 is 42 mph.

He is 10 mph slower than that. There is problems somewhere.

Been on here a long time. Those bulletins are pretty accurate.

People are almost always within 1 or 2 mph of the Yamaha bulletins. Mine have been almost exactly the same. Actually I have gotten better MPG’s than the bulletins say.
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I had a 2006 SH Escape with Yamaha 115 and the only time I wish I had the 150 was when I had two fat guys with me fishing. We tubed and wakeboarded with the kids no problem and it seemed very fuel efficient. I have a SH Triton 21 now with the 150 and I feel like I'm always filling it up. I guess it depends on what your using it for and the average wgt of crew and gear.
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