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Old 11-13-2017, 06:04 PM   #1
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Just had this sent to me. We used to rent the cabins from Sally and Les most every week of Easter and Thanksgiving. That's how we found out about Harkers. Here is a brief video where the friggen bastids from the park service threw them off of the Cape. Sally died not too long after but Les would come around for years just to have some lunch and talk about the good old times. Anybody remember them?

http://history.capitolbroadcasting.c...story/?from=10
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The NPS deal is one of the dumbest deals that the state of NC ever made.

Anybody know why the state did that?
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The NPS deal is one of the dumbest deals that the state of NC ever made.

Anybody know why the state did that?
It was a federal thing. I don't think NC had any say so. I feel compelled to write the whole story but it ain't happening tonight.
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I grew up about just a hop skip and jump from that area and I remember as a boy there being a lot of hate and discontent towards the park service back then for the way it all went down. Hopefully someone will share the “rest of the story”with us.
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Can't even imagine....
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Thanks for posting. I would love to hear more stories of Cape Lookout pre-USPS and how this deal went down.
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Thanks for sharing Shag. Good info.
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Was I the only one wanting the old couple to cut bait and sort those NPS folks out Steve Austin style?
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It wasn’t just Cape Lookout it was all of Core banks, the park service came in and took camps and cottages from people and then burned them to the ground. Yes there was and is great hatred towards the NPS for the things they did and are still doing today.
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I thought that people who had legitimate claims had the use of their property for 25 years. I knew someone whose family had a house at CALO, and they knew their day was coming for a generation. It was not sudden, and it was not a surprise eviction.
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I grew up traveling to Portsmouth Island with Capt. Don and Miss Katie. Truly the GOOD OLD DAYS!!!!!
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yes went in the shop about every weekend with my father on the Clem II they were great always looked after me if I was out in the 13 boston whaler and needed any help. they were the first to take the turtle eggs and allow them to hatch, then return them to the water at night. too bad the govt made them move off the island.
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I thought that people who had legitimate claims had the use of their property for 25 years. I knew someone whose family had a house at CALO, and they knew their day was coming for a generation. It was not sudden, and it was not a surprise eviction.
Sally and Les could have stayed but couldn't rent their cabins. Now the park service has cabins for rent. Plus, Sally and Les' cabins are being used by park service and friends and family. Two faced bastards. They need to go back to Yellowstone where they belong.

And "YES" redjonesbrother, the hatred was there then and it still is now. We used to just let the retrievers run, then there was a 6 foot leash law. Then no dogs. Then a 6 foot leash law. I know a guy who got a $200 ticket for letting his 3 month old lab puppy play in the water on the East end of Harkers, which is part of the national puke service. They remind me of Barney Fife without the class but with the powers of a federal agency.

I almost got a ticket when there was a "no dog" rule on the Cape. For years, especially when Sally and Les had their cabins, we took dogs over with no problem. A few years ago I dropped Michelle on the beach near the rock jetty and was trolling for a few Hispanics for dinner and saw a puke ranger pull up on a 4 wheeler. Pulled my lines in and ran over to the beach. He was giving her chit for having dogs. We didn't know they changed the rules to "stupid". I got out of the boat and asked what the problem was. He told me "no dogs" so I walked them down into about a foot of water and asked if had jurisdiction off the island. He admitted he didn't so we played with the dogs in the water for a while and left. The place is heaven, the enforcement needs to get a life.

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Yes and when shark island joins with south point it will fall under their jurisdiction.
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Yes and when shark island joins with south point it will fall under their jurisdiction.
The way Barden is shoaling there may eventually be another Diamond City.
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Wish I had know then what I know now.

When I first started visiting Harkers Island in 2001 I rented a mobile home from a Harkers local. The mobile home was just inland but his home was on the water on the south side of Harkers.

Part of his famiIy were some of the ones kicked off of Shack when the NPS took over. He said that as a teen he would have to row his boat over to Shack and milk the cows the family still had on Shack. His grandmother would not drink the milk from Harkers cows but loved the milk from Shack cows. She swore they was a difference in the taste.

He did tell about when he turned 18 and joined the Coast Guard. He promised he would call his aunt, the only family member to have a phone, when he got safely to the training center. He had to get help to make the call. At 18 yo he had never used a phone before.

The stories he could have told me if I only had know what to ask!!
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Wish I had know then what I know now.

When I first started visiting Harkers Island in 2001 I rented a mobile home from a Harkers local. The mobile home was just inland but his home was on the water on the south side of Harkers.

Part of his famiIy were some of the ones kicked off of Shack when the NPS took over. He said that as a teen he would have to row his boat over to Shack and milk the cows the family still had on Shack. His grandmother would not drink the milk from Harkers cows but loved the milk from Shack cows. She swore they was a difference in the taste.

He did tell about when he turned 18 and joined the Coast Guard. He promised he would call his aunt, the only family member to have a phone, when he got safely to the training center. He had to get help to make the call. At 18 yo he had never used a phone before.

The stories he could have told me if I only had know what to ask!!
Cape Lookout is the reason I went in the Coast Guard. When we were kids we would go over to the CG station and shoot the chit with the coasties. I was thinking, let's see, 48 on, 48 off, and when on duty you paint some, run some boat drills, play pool, and eat good, all the while waiting on a boat call. And you get paid for this? I was actually in boot camp when the Cape Lookout station closed. I tried to get every small boat station on the outer banks and ended up on the Chilula out of Fort Macon.

I do remember while they were still open when the XO of the station got killed. He got drunk and then called the station from Calico Jacks and had a boat come over and pick him up. He insisted on driving back and hit a marker.

A lot of history down there. We bought our place on Harkers about the time Sally and Les were tossed. BTW, I still have Sally's clam chowder recipe.
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I believe I remember a story that Capt Wilde told on the ugly boat thread about a fire at the NPS building? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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It wasn’t just Cape Lookout it was all of Core banks, the park service came in and took camps and cottages from people and then burned them to the ground. Yes there was and is great hatred towards the NPS for the things they did and are still doing today.
I thought the owners burned them to the ground so the park service could not use them?
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I thought the owners burned them to the ground so the park service could not use them?
Don't know about on Lookout but the owners burned their houses on Shackelford the Sunday before NPS took over.
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