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Old 02-06-2006, 11:52 AM
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Could be a good one tomorrow night. What do you guys think? FSU gave Duke a run for their money Saturday. UNC did pretty well against Clemson also. Reddick and Williams are tough, but Hansbrough (to me) has had a very impressive freshman year and Terry has played well recently for the heels. I really don't have a dog in the fight, but look forward to a good game. I say Duke comes out on top, but not by much.
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I just don't know man, it could be a DOOK runaway, or a close UNC victory.
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If we can knock down the open shots and not make TOO many freshman mistakes.......we gotta chance. I say we hold Redick to under 25 and we commit under 20 TOs. Carolina by 7.
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:17 PM
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Yeah, it seems Duke is faltering here in mid-season, squeaking out some close ones against mediocre teams. Iím glad Roy is coaching UNC, all those blowouts by Duke were getting monotonous. You really have to admire coach K, turning down megabuck deals in the NBA and running such a classy program.

When I moved back to N.C. from the Marhsal Islands the only reason I bought a TV was so I could watch the Duke UNC games (of course Iíve since seen the light).

I think we will see what both teams are made of tonight. This is one game they both desperately want to win. I think Duke will open up a big lead early, then UNC will slowly close to with 5 or so points. Then itís a question of who wants it more. chip.
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duck fook

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TrollnHeel - 2/6/2006 2:08 PM

If we can knock down the open shots and not make TOO many freshman mistakes.......we gotta chance. I say we hold Redick to under 25 and we commit under 20 TOs. Carolina by 7.
I'm prayin' for less than 30 turnovers and keeping it close at this point in the season. Da'Heels need to show me some consistency on defense(looked real good in the 2nd half of the twerps game) and holding onto the ball before I feel like we can beat the dookies. I know they can do it as I have seen them play like that this year, but can and will are a long way apart I'm afraid. GO HEELS!!!!!
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chip - 2/6/2006 2:17 PM

Yeah, it seems Duke is faltering here in mid-season, squeaking out some close ones against mediocre teams.
I don't think they are faltering as much as they are getting into a part of their schedule that is tough for them matchup wise. FSU and BC are both big and quick. They were able to take advantage of Coach K's unwillingness to switch out of the Man-to-man defense. His defensive help philosphy hasn't worked as well with this team as it has some past teams. Which is fine with me. I would love to see the Heels win this one but I'm not sure they will be able to handle the big game pressure. I am glad the first one is in Chapel Hill. They have played very well there for the most part. I think the key matchup might be Frasor and Paulus. If Frasor can get enough pressure on the ball it may force Duke into some things they don't like and make it more difficult to get the ball to JJ where he can spot up for those big 3's. On the other hand if they don't get pressure on him and the refs call the game really tight Tyler could get in foul trouble and it could be a long night.

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Go State....ooops, I guess since my wife went to UNC CH I sould pull for Carolinia. I still bleed red but never DARK blue. DOOK is the New Jersey/Foreign capital of the south. Iguess they did not like Trenton after clearing imigration in New York.
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Georgetown South vs Berkley East, oh, I'm gagging on my latte'

2 great coaches imo. I doubt this game will be as good as the girls game last week....or have the same result.
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Duke by 10+.

Enough said.

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If you want to waste five minutes and practice counting under ten, go to the Duke campus and count the in-state license plates.

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Friends don't let friends go to Dook. Go Heels!
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If you want to waste five minutes and practice counting under ten, go to the Duke campus and count the in-state license plates.

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62% of all students @ UNC.......OUT OF STATE........published numbers folks......you State fans
will be somewhat surprised also ratio at NCS........out of state tutition......."BIG BUCKS"....
All of our major university institutions are doing this.......
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What does that have to do with the game?
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62% of all students @ UNC.......OUT OF STATE........published numbers folks......you State fans
will be somewhat surprised also ratio at NCS........out of state tutition......."BIG BUCKS"....
All of our major university institutions are doing this.......
what are you talking about??

UNC Board Of Governors To Consider Admitting More Out-Of-State Students
Critics Argue Proposal Would Limit Students From N.C.

POSTED: 6:36 p.m. EDT October 7, 2003
UPDATED: 6:41 p.m. EDT October 7, 2003

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. -- A new plan to raise student standards at North Carolina's 16 state universities raises old questions of fairness. Next month, the UNC Board of Governors will consider a proposal to hike the cap on out-of-state students from 18 to 22 percent.
CHAPEL HILL, N.C. --



High-performing out-of-state students vs. homegrown students? That is the question being raised by the UNC Board of Governors. The group is considering adding more students to UNC-system schools.



Getting into UNC-system schools like Chapel Hill gets tougher ever year. This fall, UNC rejected 40 percent of in-state freshman applicants. Eighty percent of out-of-staters who applied failed to make the cut. A new proposal would open the door just a little wider for National Merit Scholars from outside North Carolina.


"By doing so, we can create a more geographically varied and more intellectually stimulating environment," said UNC Chancellor James Moeser.


"We cannot sell out the people or our state for more money that comes from out-of-state and out-of-country students," said Rep. Alex Warner, D-Cumberland.


Despite university promises that in-state student enrollment will also increase, Warner, who also chairs the House Education Committee, said adjusting the percentages does not add up.


"I am staunchly opposed to that kind of reasoning. It makes no sense to me whatsoever at the expense of our own state residents," he said.


On the other hand, Gov. Mike Easley supports a moderate change.

"We will be able to make sure we provide everything we need for in-state students. That's the first priority, and at the same time, give them a broader education by meeting people from other places," he said.


Critics like Warner believe the UNC system was founded to educate students from North Carolina's hometowns -- not those with the highest SAT scores from elsewhere.


"We have lost common-sense reasoning between what our responsibilities are for providing higher education for our students," he said.


Warner plans to pursue legislative angles for ways to keep the out-of-state student cap from changing. He said he may try to withhold state funds to get the attention of the university system.




so did they raise the cap from 18% to 62% since october of 2003? i don't think so.
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Straight from the Policy Book. section 700.1.3

The UNC Policy Manual: 700.1.3





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Adopted 03/14/86
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OUT-OF-STATE UNDERGRADUATE ENROLLMENT


To insure that constituent institutions maintain a level of out-of-state undergraduate enrollment consistent with historical University policy and tradition, and one consistent with strong and balanced educational programs, it is recommended that the Board of Governors adopt this statement of policy:


Each constituent institution, except the North Carolina School of the Arts, shall take necessary steps to limit the proportion of out-of-state students in the entering freshman class to not more than 18 percent by the fall of 1988. In any instance in which a chancellor believes that his institution would suffer serious problems or hardships in reaching this limit within the time provided, he may petition the President and the Board of Governors for an extension of time to meet the 18 per cent limit, which petition may be granted on an annual basis not to extend beyond the fall of 1990. The petition shall set forth the reason for the request, the steps taken by the institution in furtherance of the policy, and the progress made. The chancellor shall furnish such other information as may be requested by the President.


The President shall monitor progress toward this goal, and shall make interim reports on fall 1986, and fall 1987, enrollments to the board.


The board shall review this policy in 1988-89 and consider then whether amendments should be made or further measures adopted.


It is the board's expectation that institutions will admit only academically well-qualified out-of-state students. In any year in which the average combined SAT score for out-of-state freshmen is below that for North Carolina freshmen, the President shall require a written report from the chancellor. The President will include in his interim reports to the board information on the average combined SAT scores for both groups of freshmen.


Beginning with the fall of 1994, any constituent institution, except the North Carolina School of the Arts, that exceeds the 18% out-of-state freshman enrollment limitation prescribed in paragraph (a) above for two consecutive fiscal years shall have its State operating budget reduced. This reduction shall be made in the second fiscal year in which the two consecutive fiscal year condition is violated; the reduction shall be made, on a non-recurring basis, immediately after the Board of Governors approves the annual enrollment report at its November meeting. The budget reduction shall be based on the number of out-of-state freshmen enrolled in excess of the 18% limitation and the established method used for calculating the operating requirements for regular term enrollment changes.






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