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Old 07-24-2010, 08:08 PM
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What is the current requirement for insurance and inspections on boat trailers in NC?
And at what weight are brakes required?
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any double or triple axle trailer is required to have brakes on at least one axle. that rule may be changing to include all axles. if it is a commercial trailer brakes are required on all axles.
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Thanks. If that is a recent law, is it retro-active, is it trailers manufactured after a certain date, or all trailers?
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Any trailer 4'000lbs. or more require brakes.
To get it inspected it has to have the requirement on the registration. The location is the top line at the far right and it will say "inspection due" and the date will be below that.

I just went thru the inspection part because after our boat bill passed I had to get the trailer inspected and they put the silver inspection sticker on it.

Now I cannot get it inspected because the requirement is not on the registration and it all computerized so there isn't anywhere for the inspection to register for the trailer. So if they pull me I will see what happens I guess.

This is for private use only. Commercial is a different ball game.

The rules and regs are here in Chapter 20 motor vehicles, towing starts around 118.6

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedL...hapter_20.html

Hope this helps instead of confusing it even more,
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Thanks, this is all I could find in the regs. Nothing about tandem or triple axles, just gross weight.
(f) Every semitrailer, or trailer, or separate vehicle, attached by a drawbar or coupling to a towing vehicle, and having a gross weight of two tons, and all house trailers of 1,000 pounds gross weight or more, shall be equipped with brakes controlled or operated by the driver of the towing vehicle, which shall conform to the specifications set forth in subsection (e) of this section and shall be of a type approved by the Commissioner.
It shall be unlawful for any person or corporation engaged in the business of selling house trailers at wholesale or retail to sell or offer for sale any house trailer which is not equipped with the brakes required by this subsection.

Here is (e), referenced above. I wonder if the words "motor truck" and "tractor-truck" excludes SUVs from the braking requirement? Don't get me wrong, I need brakes, and will have them soon. Just wondering about some slow trips to the lake while I am working on it. My boat is 2870 dryweight, with a 200 Yamaha, and a tandem trailer, so I am over the 4K. My Suburban will hardly stop itself, much less anything behind it. I would like to drive one of those Suburbans that guys claim they tow 10-12 thousand pounds, and "don't even know it's back there".

(e) Motor trucks and tractor‑trucks with semitrailers attached shall be capable of stopping on a dry, hard, approximately level highway free from loose material at a speed of 20 miles per hour within the following distances: Thirty feet with both hand and service brake applied simultaneously and 50 feet when either is applied separately, except that vehicles maintained and operated permanently for the transportation of property and which were registered in this or any other state or district prior to August, 1929, shall be capable of stopping on a dry, hard, approximately level highway free from loose material at a speed of 20 miles per hour within a distance of 50 feet with both hand and service brake applied simultaneously, and within a distance of 75 feet when either applied separately.

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Originally Posted by glacierbaze View Post
Thanks, this is all I could find in the regs. Nothing about tandem or triple axles, just gross weight.
(f) Every semitrailer, or trailer, or separate vehicle, attached by a drawbar or coupling to a towing vehicle, and having a gross weight of two tons, and all house trailers of 1,000 pounds gross weight or more, shall be equipped with brakes controlled or operated by the driver of the towing vehicle, which shall conform to the specifications set forth in subsection (e) of this section and shall be of a type approved by the Commissioner.
It shall be unlawful for any person or corporation engaged in the business of selling house trailers at wholesale or retail to sell or offer for sale any house trailer which is not equipped with the brakes required by this subsection.


Correct, it based on weight not the number of axles, so 4'000 lbs. you need brakes.

Also I do not know about your beam but over 8'6" you need lights on the boat and trailer at the widest point of each. This is in section 118.6 (M).

I have some pic's of lights I made for the boat if that would help. I used a variation of Marks (offshores) design.

Butch
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If I tow my boat with a farm tractor am I exempt??


Seriously, even after all the hard work getting a new bill passed into law, we still are pretty heavily regulated. I see guys pulling RV's twice as big as my boat and they get a free pass on weight and who knows what else. I dont' want more regulations on those guys just less on the recreational boaters.

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[quote=glacierbaze;3128964]Thanks, this is all I could find in the regs. Nothing about tandem or triple axles, just gross weight.
(f) Every semitrailer, or trailer, or separate vehicle, attached by a drawbar or coupling to a towing vehicle, and having a gross weight of two tons, and all house trailers of 1,000 pounds gross weight or more, shall be equipped with brakes controlled or operated by the driver of the towing vehicle, which shall conform to the specifications set forth in subsection (e) of this section and shall be of a type approved by the Commissioner.
It shall be unlawful for any person or corporation engaged in the business of selling house trailers at wholesale or retail to sell or offer for sale any house trailer which is not equipped with the brakes required by this subsection.

Here is (e), referenced above. I wonder if the words "motor truck" and "tractor-truck" excludes SUVs from the braking requirement?


No, The [ wording ] is [ trailer ] that is where they can get you.

The SUV exempts you from the weight.

Pickup Truck, you are NOT exempt from the weight.

Standard blue NC tag is good for 9000lbs. total weight/trailer included .

They have to give you 500 lbs. This is to allow for what might be wrong when they would weigh you.

( so when he says he is being nice and giving that 500lbs.extra to you,
HE IS LYING ABOUT IT. HE HAS TOO GIVE IT TO YOU. )

The 500lbs. is also in the section of Chapter 20 Motor Vehicles .

I might have to change my name to maybe 6/0 after this post

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[quote=4/0;3129210]
Originally Posted by glacierbaze View Post
Thanks, this is all I could find in the regs. Nothing about tandem or triple axles, just gross weight.
(f) Every semitrailer, or trailer, or separate vehicle, attached by a drawbar or coupling to a towing vehicle, and having a gross weight of two tons, and all house trailers of 1,000 pounds gross weight or more, shall be equipped with brakes controlled or operated by the driver of the towing vehicle, which shall conform to the specifications set forth in subsection (e) of this section and shall be of a type approved by the Commissioner.
It shall be unlawful for any person or corporation engaged in the business of selling house trailers at wholesale or retail to sell or offer for sale any house trailer which is not equipped with the brakes required by this subsection.

Here is (e), referenced above. I wonder if the words "motor truck" and "tractor-truck" excludes SUVs from the braking requirement?


No, The [ wording ] is [ trailer ] that is where they can get you.

The SUV exempts you from the weight.

Pickup Truck, you are NOT exempt from the weight.

Standard blue NC tag is good for 9000lbs. total weight/trailer included .

They have to give you 500 lbs. This is to allow for what might be wrong when they would weigh you.

( so when he says he is being nice and giving that 500lbs.extra to you,
HE IS LYING ABOUT IT. HE HAS TOO GIVE IT TO YOU. )

The 500lbs. is also in the section of Chapter 20 Motor Vehicles .

I might have to change my name to maybe 6/0 after this post

Butch
My weighted tag is 12500 lbs???
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[quote=westco;3129394]
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My weighted tag is 12500 lbs???
If it's a 12000lb tag then yes, you're good to 12500.

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I was told my suburban needed weighted tags by the people at NCDOT in Raleigh. Did it anyway.
Recieved my registration for my boat trailer so I guess it doesn't need to be inspected (triple axle, 13K trailer).
Have to renew my wide load permit this month.
Never did get my Special CDL
What else?
Had two NCHP Tahoes in front of my office with two dump trucks pulled this morning in Wilmington.
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I weighed truck, boat, trailer, equipment and myself at the Cat scales on 74 near Rockingham on Sunday. Total weight was 7390. I thought my total weight would be higher than that. I have a Nissan Frontier P/U and a Seahunt Triton 177 with a Wesco trailer. Truck was full of gas and boat was a little less that half full. I guess a normal tag should cover me.

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