Go Back  The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum > REGIONAL BOATING & FISHING GROUPS > The Carolinas
Reload this Page >

Bardens Inlet-Lower Core Sound Nav Aid Update

Notices

Bardens Inlet-Lower Core Sound Nav Aid Update

Old 10-09-2020, 12:44 PM
  #1  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location:
Posts: 2,495
Received 306 Likes on 177 Posts
Default Bardens Inlet-Lower Core Sound Nav Aid Update

The last few days the diamond danger marker poles were removed from South of HI to Morgan’s Island. Also all information aids were removed from lower Core Sound, all markers are gone from HI to Marshallberg. Also the red nun north of the dogleg is gone as well as the green stick coming out of the dogleg on the south side
Old 10-11-2020, 12:12 PM
  #2  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location:
Posts: 2,495
Received 306 Likes on 177 Posts
Default

Bump
Likes:
Old 10-11-2020, 01:08 PM
  #3  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: N.C.
Posts: 510
Received 45 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by westco View Post
Bump
Unfortunately I found this out at Dark 30 Saturday morning.
Why take down the danger markers?
The only problem I had was coming out of the dogleg going out i always aimed at that maker.
Old 10-11-2020, 01:32 PM
  #4  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Upper NC
Posts: 2,514
Received 421 Likes on 242 Posts
Default

If locals put some of these up then who would take them down?
Old 10-11-2020, 04:16 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,307
Received 423 Likes on 148 Posts
Default

Don't quite understand the thought process with this. I know the CG has a job to do and the waters are considered unnavigable by their standards, but hundreds of boats tranverse that area including the ferries. Yes, I know the ferry captains know the area, but why make it more dangerous to the unsuspecting or less knowlegeable boaters trying to go to the cape? They were there Wednesday when I went out and gone by Saturday when I went again. Thought my eyes were failing me.
Old 10-11-2020, 05:22 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 1,400
Received 340 Likes on 229 Posts
Default

“We are the government and we are here to help”.
Old 10-11-2020, 05:55 PM
  #7  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location:
Posts: 639
Received 238 Likes on 105 Posts
Default

why make it more dangerous to the unsuspecting or less knowlegeable boaters trying to go to the cape?


It is a gambit to increase their budgets. The goal is to make the boating public feel some pain and complain to their congress critters... the CG is then asked why so many people are running aground and getting hurt. The CG brass responds that it breaks their hearts but they just don't have the budget to maintain the markers. Maybe if congress throws some funding their way, they could find a way to re-install the shoal markers which required near zero maintenance in the first place.
Old 10-11-2020, 08:00 PM
  #8  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location:
Posts: 2,495
Received 306 Likes on 177 Posts
Default

There will be some homemade stuff added to the dogleg pretty soon. It’s my understanding funding has been acquired for the dredging but there’s some regulatory hurdles to clear first. One being the original spoil islands traditionally used for dredging projects are now bird sanctuaries that some endangered migratory birds use to lay their eggs as well as some sea grasses in the area. Then I would think there will be the dredging moratorium which is in effect from April-October to protect sturgeon, i sh*t you not. This is why it took so long to build the North River bridge. So were probably looking at a year minimum before any work, unless someone really greases the gears of government
Old 10-11-2020, 08:06 PM
  #9  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location:
Posts: 2,495
Received 306 Likes on 177 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by brcarls View Post

It is a gambit to increase their budgets. The goal is to make the boating public feel some pain and complain to their congress critters... the CG is then asked why so many people are running aground and getting hurt. The CG brass responds that it breaks their hearts but they just don't have the budget to maintain the markers. Maybe if congress throws some funding their way, they could find a way to re-install the shoal markers which required near zero maintenance in the first place.
the CG hired a private company to remove 150 aids from Wanchese to Cape Lookout. I’ve actually noticed with the poles gone, a lot more people are slowing down because they don’t see anything. Before they would run from the pole on the north side of the dogleg to the pole on the south side and run right up on the shoal. It may actually have the opposite effect that I originally thought it would have
Old 10-12-2020, 03:08 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,307
Received 423 Likes on 148 Posts
Default

It has slowed some people down running to that dogleg. Hell, it slowed me down too. I thought I had lost my eyesight when I didn't see those poles. Good thing to have a good trail and a good samaritan that doesn't mind putting out those home made markers.
That dogleg could be eliminated pretty quick with some dredging as it looks like a channel is sorta forming to the left side of the shoal leaving Harkers.
Likes:
Old 10-12-2020, 08:37 AM
  #11  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Salter Path
Posts: 1,874
Received 331 Likes on 177 Posts
Default

I have no issue removing the danger shoal markers which to me were oddly placed. Never made sense to be coming out of the dogleg towards harkers and then pass immediately by a big marker facing me saying DANGER SHOAL. It should say CONGRATS YOU MADE IT.
Likes:
Old 10-12-2020, 09:44 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,307
Received 423 Likes on 148 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by one wolf View Post
I have no issue removing the danger shoal markers which to me were oddly placed. Never made sense to be coming out of the dogleg towards harkers and then pass immediately by a big marker facing me saying DANGER SHOAL. It should say CONGRATS YOU MADE IT.
LMAO!!
Likes:
Old 10-12-2020, 02:38 PM
  #13  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

My first time ever going the back way was Saturday. I had to wait for a few locals I could follow after I ended up in 20".
Old 10-12-2020, 03:02 PM
  #14  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,631
Received 194 Likes on 135 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by westco View Post
There will be some homemade stuff added to the dogleg pretty soon. It’s my understanding funding has been acquired for the dredging but there’s some regulatory hurdles to clear first. One being the original spoil islands traditionally used for dredging projects are now bird sanctuaries that some endangered migratory birds use to lay their eggs as well as some sea grasses in the area. Then I would think there will be the dredging moratorium which is in effect from April-October to protect sturgeon, i sh*t you not. This is why it took so long to build the North River bridge. So were probably looking at a year minimum before any work, unless someone really greases the gears of government

We have Sturgeon?
Old 10-12-2020, 05:08 PM
  #15  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location:
Posts: 2,495
Received 306 Likes on 177 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jhendric View Post
We have Sturgeon?
not many but there are a very few that move thru here. I will say the only ones I’ve ever seen here were in the late fall and winter around the cape. Probably saw less than 8 total in my 40 yrs around here. Biggest one I ever witnessed was an 8’er caught in a striper net on the cape shoals in January 06, all the others probably averaged 4’. Being they are endangered, some of the regulatory agencies use their “presence” or lack there of, as a reason to impose moratoriums on any projects that cause significant water disturbances and increase in particulates.

Last edited by westco; 10-12-2020 at 05:16 PM.
Old 10-13-2020, 05:17 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Roanoke VA
Posts: 255
Received 11 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by westco View Post
all markers are gone from HI to Marshallberg.
Do you mean the markers in Straits are gone? Or the just markers in Core Sound from HI to Marshallberg?

Im glad I finally ventured around Core Sound between HI and Marshallberg some this summer while the markers were still out - I found that east end trickier than MHC to the cape going inside.
Old 10-13-2020, 06:23 PM
  #17  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location:
Posts: 2,495
Received 306 Likes on 177 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by russellbailey View Post
Do you mean the markers in Straits are gone? Or the just markers in Core Sound from HI to Marshallberg?

Im glad I finally ventured around Core Sound between HI and Marshallberg some this summer while the markers were still out - I found that east end trickier than MHC to the cape going inside.
just core sound
Likes:
Old 10-15-2020, 02:31 PM
  #18  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: nassau county
Posts: 663
Received 167 Likes on 96 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by westco View Post
just core sound
Has it been uniform for the summer, the ditch?
I'm still not in the water.
Old 10-15-2020, 11:45 PM
  #19  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location:
Posts: 2,495
Received 306 Likes on 177 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ken the plumber View Post
Has it been uniform for the summer, the ditch?
I'm still not in the water.
yeah pretty much, little movement on the north side but not too bad
Old 10-16-2020, 07:20 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Wilson, NC
Posts: 907
Received 502 Likes on 252 Posts
Default

I believe the CG is simply waiting for Barden's Inlet to close back up. Heck, it seems like it's not too far from doing just that. If course, one good nor'easter could change that.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.