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Old 10-06-2020, 05:41 AM
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You may laugh at me and/or cry for me.

Got to ramp at 4:45 Friday. Went to bait pen to make sure my baits were good. No bait pen, or at least the floats were gone. I'm told crab fisherman likely culprit. Next year bait pen will be made of fiberglass from a mold and there will be treble hooks waiting for thief. Maybe I can figure out how to rig it with explosives. If its not yours,leave it be.

Decide to troll up some blues and let the pogiecatching parking lot thin out. Get my blues and head to river channel. Anchor, chum, and send out baits. As usual sharks get them both. Head to beach and easily load the live well. Head to spot two same routine.No love from the mackerel. That's ok. I had executed my plan to a T.

Day two I get up at 3:30. I re rig my poless. Triple surgeon knot 20 lb ande to 40lb pink ande flouro to double pogie rigs. Im ready. Get to ramp at 5.Forget to tie rope from boat to trailer so I free launch my boat. Bye bye boat. I rush to save it trip on a cleat and in the river I go. Flounder guy in jonboat stops my boat I regroup and park my truck.

I get over in the bay by ramp and strip. Hang all of my gear to dry after ringing out the water. Tried to call wife to run me some dry clothes.we live close by. No phone. It left my pocket and is in river. I beached my boat in the bay and went home to dry clothes. In back! Not shivering and determined,fired up,ready to go.

I'm in back where day one I was first to checkout.I quickly find them flipping near lighthouse. I get cutoff and ran over by a few biggerboats but that's just part of trying to be driver and net thrower. My time came and I loaded bait tank by 8.

Slow trolling is my plan for day 2. Get my lines set deploy drift anchor to slow me down and its on.
Around 10 in 26ft just SEof Yaupon pier I get THAT bite . she was BIG. Watched her swipe at my at my prop wash rig.2nd pass she enabled both baits and I knew she was a money fish. She burns it down and then nothing. The 40lb pink and flouro tailwhipped like butter. I threw that rod in reel so hard it may be close to jaybird shoals.I screamed a few minutes, threw some more things..... I need new pliers😄
Then I regrouped.Reeled in my lines and retired with long wire.reset lines, found the two new spools of flouro and they flew.Very very far.

20 minutes pass.As I'm listening to radio chatter someone keys the Mic with their reel screaming. Or so I thought. My hearing isn't great. I finally realize my long line on t top is screaming. Tailwhip THAT I say. Turns out to be a huge 8lb spanish,
. Nothing else all day. So will they just not eat the long wire? Tailwhip is not acceptable on my boat.

Wife says I take it to seriously and that's why I fish solo. I'm like this: If I execute, have no failures, and I don't catch fish, I'm good. If things fail, or I don't execute my plan, I come unglued for a very short time period. Its not that I get ill if I zero or don't place high. Its more about execution and having things right. That's all anybody can do. Loosing a GOOD fish to Tailwhip or whatever isn't acceptable. Id rather not get the bite than to have a high chance of losing them.This is one big reason I like the kite presentation.vertical presentation negates the need for flouro. Havi,g said that, I'm not convinced a long wire would have kept that big king from eating my bait. She was all over it. Always been a on the hook guy.slow trolling can be tough solo that's main reason I haven't done much of it especially in tournaments.Even though I caught my first king in 83, I'm new to slow trolling.
No, I never thumbed the spool. I tried to drive away from fish but had drift sock out I'm solo and it all went down fast. I know to try to get that angle and keep line off of fish.Anyway, I got my old phone fixed. I was tossedabout on here with that phone,
. I can get on here as layed back on my wife's phone but not my phone. I'm back with my old phone so any of you who may have tried to reach me , my dip in the river is why my phones out.
I thought the entire tournament was great. I saw funny stuff I saw folks working together and I really thought the weigh in was great. Thanks to the wonderful organizers as well as the family that donated the barge.
Wounds are licked, new rigs tied, boats clean, lets get ready to RUMBLE!!!!!

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Old 10-06-2020, 05:59 AM
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I like a guy who can laugh at his own "issues".
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Visualizing your post got my day off to a good start. More of us need to be able to laugh it off when things go sideways.
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Sometimes they would eat 50 feet of wire. Sometimes they won't bite anything. When the fishing is slow sometimes it takes short leaders. You just risk what happened to you happening. It's part of it and I can promise you you weren't the only one to get tail whipped this weekend. At least you got a good bite. I know several who didn't even get a King bite this weekend. Great report BTW. Hate it happed to you but it was a good read.
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Awesome report! Takes balls to come on here and say how exactly it went down. I hate it for you. I would say your plan worked since you had fish bite and tight. Who knows why they eat and why they break off. Itís what keeps us coming back to spend all this time and money to get a gaff in a dam kingfish! Iím glad your safe from your fall in, lessons learned once will last a lifetime. Donít beat yourself up. Get re grouped, sign up for another tournament, go out and prove to yourself that your good and you had an off day. ....Oh yea, buy some more Fluoro too, tie it to a 6ft piece of paracord. That shit isnít cheap!! Get back on the horse buddy!
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Old 10-06-2020, 08:18 AM
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Sounds about like our weekend did not get a king bite the first day but day 2 trolling the beach just south of oak island pier in 20ft foot of water my long line gets hit takes 20 yards of line and I normally just gaff the fish let my brother reel them in but I grabbed the rod and told dad to just turn the boat to the right so we donít have to clear the lines figured it was a anouther shark so the fish comes up beside the boat and we got a look itís a solid 40lbs king then we started scrambling still never took any line well I let my brother gaff her and he missed her 2 times then she took a good run and cut my seven strand the worst part was we got it all on video it makes you sick watching that much money swim off over not doing everything the right way but Lesson learned
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Oh boy! Guess itís my turn then.

I spent all March - May down at ocean isle left the boat and all my gear in good shape - I thought. Had a baby in July so hadnít been back to the boat since. Get down Thursday morning to two dead batteries. Quick trip to jimmys and replace. VHF was also dead so installed a new on Thursday morning.

put the boat in the water and turn south to run out of little river. Turned right and ran down to Apache - didnít see a single sniff of bait so we turned back north and played with the Spanish.


get back to dock and it goes from bad to worse. Try to extend my outriggers so I could get them up and out of the way and pull on the last segment and it pops out and I nearly went the way of layed back and went for a swim but managed to hang on.

Friday morning comes and weíre ready. Tell my crew I have a sneaky gut feeling we should push offshore to jungle. I have them the choice of oak island or jungle and to the jungle it was. Ugh brutal decision.

no bait all the way down 20 miles on the beach. See Spanish jumping everywhere put out a few greenies but couldnít get a sniff. Wind was howling from the north east and we decide to pick up and run right back into the teeth of it to the jetties and reset our thoughts. End up finding bait around tubbs inlet and proceed to fish all the way up to shallots inlet, ledges, 460 and not a sniff. Tried to set the SFE kite up on our drift but after an hour of it pinwheeling Into the water gave up on it. Ugh. Dropped a jig and got a nice 3# blue put him out for bait for a Hail Mary but he got off without incident. Same for a couple Spanish. As weíre moving spots Iím at the transom facing aft tying knots and we smash into a wave - out of the corner of my eye I see a nice avet mxl combo meet its maker. RIP.

ended the day without a bite. Well scratch that we mustíve caught about a dozen 18Ē Spanish on the sabiki .... wtf.

Saturday comes and we decide letís KISS go up to Lockwood and get the bait and figure out where we could drift. We find some of the thiccest baits Iíve ever had pleasure of dragging. Get a couple baits in the water and the mid line with pink skirt starts going crazy. See a tail and fin hammering the bait but could not get him tight. Reset spread and long port slices clear across the spread - I monitor it, drop it back, jig it but no ones home so I slowly retrieve it. As itís coming up on our prop wash double rig a nice flash of silver shows up and we get excited but couldnít get it to bite. Spent the rest of the day laughing at the g spot #2 radio banter.

this us open was humbling. I hate that we couldnít fish offshore either day. We will be back for fall brawl to endure it all again 🤩
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Did you put it in rice?
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Old 10-06-2020, 11:44 AM
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Has nothing to do with the tail whip but a bimini twist to a no name/bristol knot would be stronger than the triple surgeon. I don't fish tourneys of any kind but I always try to have the best knot combo tied on just in case you hook the fish of a lifetime. Would hate to lose a fish due to knot failure because I wasn't using the best knot for the job.

That being said I cannot get FG knots to work right and I hate tying them! Albright's do just fine lol.
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Iíll toss in our trip.

Me and another guy trailer the boat down Tuesday morning. Grab bite to eat at oifc and drop the boat in. Get the truck and trailer put up at the house and get the pen in the water.

Head out LR down to cherry grove and Apache looking for bait. As soon as we locate a good pod the rain and wind start rolling in. With 2 days left to catch bait forget that we are heading to the house.

Wednesday head up towards Holden and found a few pogies here or there but mostly mullet. Ok no big deal take the girls to lunch at Archieís. Head out LR again after lunch looking for bait and nothing. Get word itís up towards big hill. Ok we will head up there first thing in the morning.

Get to big hill and it looks like a tournament morning. After a few Christmas trees full of mullet start to push towards lighthouse and get confirmation itís thick. After 3 throws we load about 125 real nice pogies in the well and head back to OIB. Ok letís hop in the truck and go register. Nope girls want lunch.

Load ads everyone in the boat and head to proco and then to register. After the past 3 days of running around on the boat come Friday morning I feel like we already fished a tournament.

Come Friday morning decide to check out of LR. Pogies feisty as ever took about 30 min to get 60 into the well. Get down to LR about 6:45 decide to fish Apache, second boat there and get lines in the water. Few hours and 1 shark to the boat. Push down the beach see a king sky in 20í just shy of sky wheel. Drop some baits in and there is life everywhere, screen is lit up with bait. Another shark. On a skirt rig I really like. So letís get the gripflip well as I went to flip so did the shark. RIP gripflip. Decide to head back up to cherry grove. Pogies starting to look tired but still have plenty. Troll just offshore between the piers no love. See a small color change between 30-35í. Ok letís try drifting over the color change. Wind and current are perfect for the drift. Get 4 lines out the port side. 5 min later mid teens skyís on a middle bait misses it and is gone. Couple minutes later short reel screams for 10 second another mid teen skyís and drops it. Finally 5 minutes later a good high 20 low 30 comes from under the boat knocks short out of the water and then takes 2 middle baits and both reels are screaming the he hits the long. All 3 reels screaming for 15 seconds. Then absolute silence. Reeled em in. She missed or threw hooks on both middle baits (head and tail only left) and she bit thru the long line right above nose hook. Finished the day up at Shallotte inlet with no love.

Saturday decide to check out at Holden and clear Lockwood and get set up offshore of ocean crest and the pack. Fish for a bit with no love. Decide to move in a little bit all sorts of life bit again no love. Decide letís change it up and head to head about 7 miles offshore. Well about halfway I asked crew if they wanted to continue and that was a hard no. So decided on the shipping channel. Saw a few hook up around us so we felt ok about. After 20 minutes or so told crew to check bait. As the are bringing in the prop wash I hear king king king heís on it. Well freespool and a few tense seconds later and she takes it and heads straight thru the rest of the spread. Somehow no tangles. Ok clear 1 side and letís go get us a fish. Start chasing her down and get a good angle in her and we are gaining line. Get to the floro and she peels another couple hundred yards off. Spin the boat around and start gaining again. Can see leader get the gaff ready and after about a 20 min fight poof nothing. Pulled the hooks. Mid to upper 20#. Moral was crushed and a lot of silence on the boat. But thatís fishing and especially tournament fishing. Went the rest of the day with no bites.

Want to thank Chris on that big beautiful OB41 for giving us the room we needed to get turned on the fish. Took the ride back to OIB and licked our wounds. Ended up burning almost 275 gallons of fuel Tuesday to Saturday with no fish other than 100+ pogies and 2 sharks to show for it.

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King ranch - is your boat reel nutz? We saw yíall like every hour this weekend if so. In the sea fox 26 with the absolut bottle on the side
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Originally Posted by influcx View Post
King ranch - is your boat reel nutz? We saw yíall like every hour this weekend if so. In the sea fox 26 with the absolut bottle on the side
no not us. Iíve got a hydra sports 2796. Reel it Yosef on the transom. Funny you said sea fox, the only sea fox I recall seeing all weekend was bubbles. Normally see a good handful of them.
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Wow, I use 30 fluoro and upgrade to 40 to use off Hatteras in the fall and early winter and Iíve NEVER been tailwhipped on the 40 catching fish over 60 and numerous over 50 on it. I uni to uni it to 20 Diamond. I too, have had some heartbreaking tailwhips in tournaments. Tailwhips suck, I have friends that use long wire with no fluoro, and they catch lots of fish. I would think around the river channel where the waters not crystal clear, youíd be fine with long wire
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Wow, I use 30 fluoro and upgrade to 40 to use off Hatteras in the fall and early winter and Iíve NEVER been tailwhipped on the 40 catching fish over 60 and numerous over 50 on it. I uni to uni it to 20 Diamond. I too, have had some heartbreaking tailwhips in tournaments. Tailwhips suck, I have friends that use long wire with no fluoro, and they catch lots of fish. I would think around the river channel where the waters not crystal clear, youíd be fine with long wire

What's funny about it is that a buddy told me to loose the flouro or id regret it.Boy was he right. Fish didn't run 50 yards . I've been up every night since trying to come up with something to slickem.

I've tried serving the leader like a bowstringg is served in that 46-56 inch area from hooks. It won't bite good and slips. I've considered ditching it and use 50lb pink an Dr mono which is way more resistant. Even thought about a double flouro leader with one being an inch longer than the other that way one is always slack. If one gets whipped the other is there.
Putting a short trace of wire in that tailbone seems pointless.
I know after going to long wire I got no love from the kings all day.Got a big Spanish on it so there's that for a tad of confidence.
Never done a lot of slow trolling for various reasons. What I like is how my two shot lines with double piggies really work side to side. I chunked 10 more piggies in my spread . Not sure if they swam with my hooked baits. I understand the technique. Get a school behind your boat. Looks as if they are trying to get under it. I think there is a reaction type element to kings hitting prop wash baits. Easy to hide the wire and hooks on a double rig and then some of the wire on my short isn't even in water if run from top. Being solo I fish 3 lines.
I'm fixing to hit the water to scout for rumble. When I hook up today ill have a longer trip rope one my drift anchor. I'm going to pull it and nail the throttle to try to keep line off of fish.
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no not us. Iíve got a hydra sports 2796. Reel it Yosef on the transom. Funny you said sea fox, the only sea fox I recall seeing all weekend was bubbles. Normally see a good handful of them.
damn -- where has bubbles been?? He used to be pretty active on here.
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Now that's a great freaking story lol! I hate I missed it. For what its worth...I always run 20lb mono to a 20 or 25lb flouro leader with the shortest 7 strand 60lb leader I can tie (almost...generally 18" or so at most). We caught 4 Kings over the tourney and a 41 lb cobia on this exact setup. I am with Kyle...I believe its your knot potentially. But....Tail whips are always a possibility but with 40lb Flouro, I find it hard to believe it happened twice due to tail whip. You never know though! Once again....story of a lifetime!

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