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Old 09-23-2020, 09:03 AM
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Rec season drawing to a close. Would like to hear how everyone’s done so far both hook/line and gigging.

Gigged 5 times I think, limited out 4 of those if I remember correctly. 2 citations. Plenty of bigger fish. Very few near the minimum. From my point of view it’s a healthy fishery. Is that because of the closure? Who knows.
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Headed towards ocean isle tomorrow looking for some limits.
Old 09-23-2020, 02:20 PM
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Recently fished the lower Neuse, Turnigan Bay, West Bay, Cedar Island areas three times. Typical trip saw one fish out of every 12-15 landed was a legal fish. Saw 20-30 fish per trip. There were obviously a lot of Age-1 fish. Friends that fish the same waters are having a similar experience. The closure is paying off and working, but it will take 3-5 years to build a healthy stock of multiple age classes. Never made it gigging yet due to wind and high or dirty water- maybe this weekend.
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I suspect a lot of it depends on where you fish - small river system area versus larger areas - Pamlico, Albermarle Sounds, Neuse or Cape Fear river system areas.

An area I fish 3-5 times/week is a smaller river system area that has been POUNDED by giggers nightly. Prior to season opening, we were regularly catching decent sized fish (legal keepers) in additional to under-sized fish. Since the season opened, the keeper fish have become much fewer and farther between. There appears to be a decent crop of year old fish.

The guys catching fish during the day, then gigging (a limit) at night I suspect is fairly significant on the resource. Then there are the rec netters - I watched twice in the last week two different boats in exact same location stretch a gillnet across a creek mouth and sit there rec fishing (when no one was looking) while they waited for the tide to swing. The damned netting inshore has GOT to end, both recreational and commercial. Gillnets are indiscriminate killers of anything they catch.

Between two of us today (11am-5pm), we caught a one-man limit if legal keepers. Released at least a half dozen 12" or less, all on artificial lures.

I would be highly in favor of a slot limit, very close to that of reds. A 15" flounder barely has enough meat in its bones to be worth killing IMHO. And, a 29"+ flounder can't taste as good as a 20" fish. We don't eat the large old drum. Why not do the same for size as reds?
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Originally Posted by CAP1 View Post
I suspect a lot of it depends on where you fish - small river system area versus larger areas - Pamlico, Albermarle Sounds, Neuse or Cape Fear river system areas.

An area I fish 3-5 times/week is a smaller river system area that has been POUNDED by giggers nightly. Prior to season opening, we were regularly catching decent sized fish (legal keepers) in additional to under-sized fish. Since the season opened, the keeper fish have become much fewer and farther between. There appears to be a decent crop of year old fish.

The guys catching fish during the day, then gigging (a limit) at night I suspect is fairly significant on the resource. Then there are the rec netters - I watched twice in the last week two different boats in exact same location stretch a gillnet across a creek mouth and sit there rec fishing (when no one was looking) while they waited for the tide to swing. The damned netting inshore has GOT to end, both recreational and commercial. Gillnets are indiscriminate killers of anything they catch.

Between two of us today (11am-5pm), we caught a one-man limit if legal keepers. Released at least a half dozen 12" or less, all on artificial lures.

I would be highly in favor of a slot limit, very close to that of reds. A 15" flounder barely has enough meat in its bones to be worth killing IMHO. And, a 29"+ flounder can't taste as good as a 20" fish. We don't eat the large old drum. Why not do the same for size as reds?
Couldnt agree more with most of what you said, particularly the gill netting. Hate it.

I would be in favor of bumping up the minimum an inch or two, but don’t think there needs to be a slot. For flounder, a slot would not have the same impact on spawning health that it does on reds, they’re very different fish in their spawning biology.

And large flounder tastes just as good to me as small flounder.
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Originally Posted by CAP1 View Post
I suspect a lot of it depends on where you fish - small river system area versus larger areas - Pamlico, Albermarle Sounds, Neuse or Cape Fear river system areas.

An area I fish 3-5 times/week is a smaller river system area that has been POUNDED by giggers nightly. Prior to season opening, we were regularly catching decent sized fish (legal keepers) in additional to under-sized fish. Since the season opened, the keeper fish have become much fewer and farther between. There appears to be a decent crop of year old fish.

The guys catching fish during the day, then gigging (a limit) at night I suspect is fairly significant on the resource. Then there are the rec netters - I watched twice in the last week two different boats in exact same location stretch a gillnet across a creek mouth and sit there rec fishing (when no one was looking) while they waited for the tide to swing. The damned netting inshore has GOT to end, both recreational and commercial. Gillnets are indiscriminate killers of anything they catch.

Between two of us today (11am-5pm), we caught a one-man limit if legal keepers. Released at least a half dozen 12" or less, all on artificial lures.

I would be highly in favor of a slot limit, very close to that of reds. A 15" flounder barely has enough meat in its bones to be worth killing IMHO. And, a 29"+ flounder can't taste as good as a 20" fish. We don't eat the large old drum. Why not do the same for size as reds?
I will agree that recreational gillnetting needs to end
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Originally Posted by westco View Post
I will agree that recreational gillnetting needs to end
So does unattended commercial gillnetting. No reason a gill net should be left unattended. If they must be allowed to use gillnets, they should be attended.
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Not that any of us would agree with him but I kinda miss ol gillnetflounderman. I'm sure he'd chime in on this topic. May he RIP.
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Not that any of us would agree with him but I kinda miss ol gillnetflounderman. I'm sure he'd chime in on this topic. May he RIP.
What happened to gillnetflounderman?
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Originally Posted by jeffro22 View Post
What happened to gillnetflounderman?
He croakered
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Originally Posted by jeffro22 View Post
What happened to gillnetflounderman?
He passed a month or so back.
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1st day weather was bad,decided to go since there would not be many boats out due to the weather. Hit my favorite spot and had 4 2 to 21/2 lbrs in about 20 minutes. Home by 8:30 and nobody seen me which is always a plus. 2nd time a little over a week later 2 hrs fishing,probably 15 or so shorts and 3 keepers. 3rd time about a week ago a ton of shorts and 2 keepers right on the mark. Decided to quit fishing instead of ripping the guts out of shorts or cutting the hook loose in their mouth.
The quality of fish was less this year then in the past 2 years in my opinion. I would think this expeeriment will take 3 years to see some if any results.
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When do flounder spawn?
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Originally Posted by seawalker57 View Post
When do flounder spawn?
Winter time in the offshore ocean waters. Winds, currents and tide bring larvae through the inlets. Larvae settle out in creeks and bays to mature. This is for both Southern and Summer. Southern stay in the estuaries to grown until fall migration. Summers start moving to inlets at about 3-4 inches in length and mature around the inlets and along the beaches. This is why the latest stock assessment for Southern included SC, GA and FLA eastcoast. We share the same spawning stock.
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Fished a couple weekends ago out of southport. Caught 19 total all between 17 and 23 inches. I haven't caught a undersized flounder all season. 95 percent of the fish were caught on mullet. Other times earlier in the season were fruitful as well.
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Originally Posted by Rick S View Post
Winter time in the offshore ocean waters. Winds, currents and tide bring larvae through the inlets. Larvae settle out in creeks and bays to mature. This is for both Southern and Summer. Southern stay in the estuaries to grown until fall migration. Summers start moving to inlets at about 3-4 inches in length and mature around the inlets and along the beaches. This is why the latest stock assessment for Southern included SC, GA and FLA eastcoast. We share the same spawning stock.
Thank you Rick S. That's what I always heard and back 25 years ago the flounder fishing always seemed productive and size and limit never seemed to be a discussion. Then they started changing the size and limit on black sea bass. The commercial guys would set pots around the reefs and was able to keep 8 inch fish. Now the size is 14 and none of the sea bass are being removed from the near shore reefs. It seems we are loosing our fishery at the reefs before the small fry make it back to the inlets to raise. The reefs are covered in all these small black sea bass eating anything that moves. Seems like we need to control the bass. Sorry for the derail but I would prefer a one month season not to be the normal. I have enjoyed the larger fish average in September but also know that most flounder over 15 inches will be the females. This is our spawning stock. If we continue with this practice I see a diminishing return.
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1st day weather was bad,decided to go since there would not be many boats out due to the weather. Hit my favorite spot and had 4 2 to 21/2 lbrs in about 20 minutes. Home by 8:30 and nobody seen me which is always a plus. 2nd time a little over a week later 2 hrs fishing,probably 15 or so shorts and 3 keepers. 3rd time about a week ago a ton of shorts and 2 keepers right on the mark. Decided to quit fishing instead of ripping the guts out of shorts or cutting the hook loose in their mouth.
The quality of fish was less this year then in the past 2 years in my opinion. I would think this expeeriment will take 3 years to see some if any results.
llord, on artificial lures, or minnows?

Yesterday - four keepers, all on artificial lures - they wouldn't touch a mullet. Plus released 6-7 undersized fish.

Today fished the same areas, same baits, same time of day - saw one 12" flounder follow a Gulp bait to the boat, but zero other flatfish.
Reds bit today though.
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llord, on artificial lures, or minnows?

Yesterday - four keepers, all on artificial lures - they wouldn't touch a mullet. Plus released 6-7 undersized fish.

Today fished the same areas, same baits, same time of day - saw one 12" flounder follow a Gulp bait to the boat, but zero other flatfish.
Reds bit today though.
Only flounder fish with live bait.
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Originally Posted by Redneckstatus View Post
Headed towards ocean isle tomorrow looking for some limits.
Well my god let me know if you catch any at OIB. I’ve been five times and caught a total of three keepers.
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He passed a month or so back.
For real? Anyone know what happened?

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