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Old 08-11-2020, 10:19 AM
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Getting ready to order a new Bay Rider 239 Bay. I can get it rigged with 200 Yamaha or 250. I would appreciate thoughts from any who have this boat. 250 is significantly more money. Yamaha Performance Bulletin for this boat rigged with the 200 looks perfectly adequate for me and manufacturers recommendation is the 200. Is there something I am not considering that would justify the expense of going to the 250 hp Yamaha.
Old 08-11-2020, 11:16 AM
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Not if a 200 “looks perfectly adequate” for you.

A 250 might give you more thrills and will get less mpg and cost more to service. Your call. Oh, the difference in price will buy a lot of gas.
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As a disclaimer, I do not own this particular boat (I run a BJ 224 with a 300). However, I have 2 close friends that do, and I fish with them often. One has the 250SHO and the other has the 300. Both test drove a 239 with a 200HP and both commented that it felt sluggish and under-powered. Neither hesitated to bump up to max power and both are happy. I was not on either test drive, but I can tell you that both the 250SHO and the 300 perform really well on that boat. Both run in the mid 50's loaded for typical fishing and with TTops. Time to plane is great and the cruise and fuel burn are good. Speed matches RPM's just about through the entire range. It's a heavy boat, quite a bit heavier than my 224. I could see the 200 being sluggish. You'll probably also find that resale value will be better when you max out the HP rating (or close to max with the SHO).
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Originally Posted by strickjds View Post
As a disclaimer, I do not own this particular boat (I run a BJ 224 with a 300). However, I have 2 close friends that do, and I fish with them often. One has the 250SHO and the other has the 300. Both test drove a 239 with a 200HP and both commented that it felt sluggish and under-powered. Neither hesitated to bump up to max power and both are happy. I was not on either test drive, but I can tell you that both the 250SHO and the 300 perform really well on that boat. Both run in the mid 50's loaded for typical fishing and with TTops. Time to plane is great and the cruise and fuel burn are good. Speed matches RPM's just about through the entire range. It's a heavy boat, quite a bit heavier than my 224. I could see the 200 being sluggish. You'll probably also find that resale value will be better when you max out the HP rating (or close to max with the SHO).
I guess if you want mid 50's then a 200 might feel slugish lol.
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There is never a substitute for horsepower! I suspect deep down you know your answer, 250 SHO.
Pioneer 220 Baysport w/ the 250 SHO, most come rigged with the 200 but the dealer is ordering for himself the baysport w/ the SHO for himself.
With the wife, dog & myself, time to plane is seconds, push it to the firewall then start backing off. It makes bow rise minimal, I plane in skinnier water & with 6 adults onboard it planes & handles great, bet the 200 won't do that.
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id go for the 250 or 300. I just looked at the Yamaha bulletin and I think they are about 1000lbs short of what your weight would actually be once you have the boat loaded with all your gear, a couple full grown buddies, trolling motor, ice, food, beer, and the live well full.
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There is never a substitute for horsepower! I suspect deep down you know your answer, 250 SHO.
Pioneer 220 Baysport w/ the 250 SHO, most come rigged with the 200 but the dealer is ordering for himself the baysport w/ the SHO for himself.
With the wife, dog & myself, time to plane is seconds, push it to the firewall then start backing off. It makes bow rise minimal, I plane in skinnier water & with 6 adults onboard it planes & handles great, bet the 200 won't do that.
it will with a four blade
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I guess if you want mid 50's then a 200 might feel slugish lol.
Címon, if it wonít hit 60 itís sluggish!
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Actually deep down I think I know the 200 is fine for me. I donít need to do mid-50ís or drag race people. Too old to hot rod around and to see how shallow I can run. It Cruises about 30 mph burning just over 4 gal/hr at 4000 rpm. 25 mph and nearly 5 gal. at 3500. With the money saved I can add the jack plate, tabs, add a power pole, upgrade the chart plotter and still save several thousand. Iím really looking for folks who have the boat with each engine and their thoughts with actual experience. If owners think the 250 is the right call, no problem. I just donít want to spend money I donít need to.
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Actually deep down I think I know the 200 is fine for me. I donít need to do mid-50ís or drag race people. Too old to hot rod around and to see how shallow I can run. It Cruises about 30 mph burning just over 4 gal/hr at 4000 rpm. 25 mph and nearly 5 gal. at 3500. With the money saved I can add the jack plate, tabs, add a power pole, upgrade the chart plotter and still save several thousand. Iím really looking for folks who have the boat with each engine and their thoughts with actual experience. If owners think the 250 is the right call, no problem. I just donít want to spend money I donít need to.
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Resale value will definitely be higher with a 250-300. And probably be more appealing to potential buyers.

Iíve never been on a boat that had to much power, but Iíve been on a few that were slow dogs.
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I have this boat with a 250SHO. Like everyone else I test drove with a 200. 4 grown adults a t-top and curtains and loaded with gear. With tabs down and motor trimmed down she planes just fine topped out around 47 with the wind at her back and felt pretty good in mid range. Not sure how it would be with more people than that and a full cooler and live wells full.
Mine with the 250SHO and 10in jack plate will jump out of the hole no matter if itís got 6 people or 2. Mid range power is great and she likes to cruise mid 30s-42mph. Exactly like said above rpm matches speed almost to the T. Best Iíve seen is 59 thatís light load 3 adults full tank of fuel. Itís got a T-top and 36v trolling motor. Now 55 is the norm with pretty good load and a power pole added since then. If youíre around swansboro let me know weíll go for a ride.
The 300 is the same motor and the 250SHO has better performance numbers by very little. Not sure on price but if the 300 is more Iíd go 250SHO. Both can be chipped for around $1000 and get you better fuel economy and around 330hp.
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I have the 239 with an F200 and like the 5.5 mpg at a 28 mph cruise, fully loaded. I would certainly consider an F300 and go that route if you want the faster plane time, speed, and could do with 4.2 mpg or so at cruise. If I ever re-power, I’d go F300.

Note, I know my fuel mileage is higher than the performance report and I have the same configuration as in the report. Not sure why, I have doubled/tripled checked in various ways but consistently get over 5 mpg. There was an old report that matched my numbers but this is no longer on the Yamaha site. Great boat regardless.
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Originally Posted by Blue_Moon View Post
I have the 239 with an F200 and like the 5.5 mpg at a 28 mph cruise, fully loaded. I would certainly consider an F300 and go that route if you want the faster plane time, speed, and could do with 4.2 mpg or so at cruise. If I ever re-power, Iíd go F300.

Note, I know my fuel mileage is higher than the performance report and I have the same configuration as in the report. Not sure why, I have doubled/tripled checked in various ways but consistently get over 5 mpg. There was an old report that matched my numbers but this is no longer on the Yamaha site. Great boat regardless.
I also have the 239 with the F200. I see very similar numbers as Blue Moon. I wavered on this decision for a long time, but in the end, I am totally satisfied with the 200. I've got 2 small and children and a third on the way, so the amount of time that I would be able to go 55+ mph would be few and far between. Similarly to Blue_Moon, if I need to re-power, likely repowering with a F300 but wouldn't rule out another F200. I love the boat. It's in MHC if you ever want a ride.
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Over powered boats and those that champion them have become so commonplace that otherwise rational sane folks like the OP get drug into the "always go max HP" mud.

The F200 powered boat will cost less up front, draft less and give an easy 30/35 MPH cruise getting great economy and not become an oil maker.
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I'd go with the bigger motor if it were I. Good luck with your purchase, nice boats.
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The 200 is fine. How many times you wanna go over 50 in a bay boat? Unless you fish red fish tournaments. I have a 239 bay with a 200 and love it
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The 200 is fine. How many times you wanna go over 50 in a bay boat? Unless you fish red fish tournaments. I have a 239 bay with a 200 and love it
The other question is how often *can* you go 55 inshore in Eastern NC, at least without pushing monster wake at all your fellow fishermen? Itís not exactly wide open spaces unless youíre in the Neuse. Itís also gotta be pretty flat to go that fast so unlikely to do it much nearshore or offshore.

And who cares what the resale value is when you have to spend several thousand more to get it? I keep hearing that argument and it doesnít make a ton of sense to me.
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How much, if any, would adding the jack plate make paired with the 200 make in hole shot? I could care less about doing 50+ mph. Resale isn’t a big concern as I have kept boats 8-10 years with 1 exception. Getting up on plane with 4, and on rare occasions 6, adults is my main consideration. And again, instantaneous is not a big priority.

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