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Old 07-22-2020, 03:32 PM
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Anyone on here jig for grouper, bliners, porgys and such occasionally? What kind and size are you using for different depths? Would big nick diamond jigs or rosco's work for this? T.I.A.
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White buck tail is a standard , 2.5 oz in 70 ft or less. Buck tail will catch anything that swims.
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Some days big diamond jigs or big buck tails are the best baits. Other times they won’t touch anything but cut bait or a live pinfish. I will say that Beeliners are in a different category- smaller hooks and usually suspended 15 - 25 ft off the bottom. I don’t catch them much on jigs.
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Yep, all the time.
Catch most any bottom species, and even king and spanish.
I got into offshore jigging 4-5 years ago and love it. I have a lot of slow pitch stuff and jigs in additional to speed jigs. Bic Nic's diamond jigs will catch any bottom dwellers, but I also enjoy flutter or slow pitcg jigs.

Whatever you buy, buy them on sale because you're going to lose some.

For triggers, small jigs and hooks - 2oz jigs with 4x treble hooks. but you can only use the lighter jigs on days with light current and wind.
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Grouper=huge mouths. B-liner=super small. Plan your attack with the size of their mouth. No b-liner is going to eat a turbo pogy whole. Grouper will 99% of the time. Match the hatch. Catch a few and examine their stomach contents. Also, know b-liners suspend so drop 10-20ft shy of the bottom for them with small circle hooks
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I’ve had better luck on knife jigs, bounce it off the bottom once or twice, jig it up 20-30ft, drop it back down and repeat. Roscoe jigs work quite well and you can tip them with cut bait or a full cigar minnow. Like said before sometimes they won’t eat jigs and only want bait. Low relief hard bottom. Takes one time for them to get fired up sometimes to eat jigs.
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Gonna try and get out of Beaufort in the morning. Any good AR s to hit for grouper? Someone said 70ft or less?
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Caught a bunch of grouper on roscoes and diamond and butterfly jigs but it does hurt the wallet when you break off a $30 roscoe.

Sometimes they are fired up for jigs. Sometimes not. Be ready to bust out the bait. couple years ago we went to an oil rig in the gulf and every drop with a diamond jig was a giant red snapper. Caught them until we couldn’t handle it anymore. Next day went to same spot and they wouldn’t touch a jig.

It is more satisfying to catch a grouper on a jig tho.

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I just bought 4 x 80g and 4 x 130g (I think) inchiku style jigs....have never used those, but look like they'll catch some of the smaller snapper/trigs. They have smaller hooks on them so not sure about bigger grouper. The octopus jigs kill the triggers for me so guessing these will be similar. Anyone use this style jig?
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Originally Posted by schoolsout1 View Post
I just bought 4 x 80g and 4 x 130g (I think) inchiku style jigs....have never used those, but look like they'll catch some of the smaller snapper/trigs. They have smaller hooks on them so not sure about bigger grouper. The octopus jigs kill the triggers for me so guessing these will be similar. Anyone use this style jig?
Where did you find the inchiku style jigs? The only place I have found them is on ebay, which I avoid if possible.
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I've had luck with 3 to 4 oz jigs from Walmart with heavier trebles on them. Best stop was 52 head of scamp in about two hours. When we dove it afterwards there were likely 200 scamp on the spot but they were spooked by now and ran out into the sand. Had to be a spawning or migration cause we never saw them there again other than a stray 2 or 3.
Tried expensive jigs and just haven't seen any difference side by side. Cigar minnow or beeliner colors seem to work best. Tipping them just increased seabass catch.
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Originally Posted by schoolsout1 View Post
I just bought 4 x 80g and 4 x 130g (I think) inchiku style jigs....have never used those, but look like they'll catch some of the smaller snapper/trigs. They have smaller hooks on them so not sure about bigger grouper. The octopus jigs kill the triggers for me so guessing these will be similar. Anyone use this style jig?
I have some of the Braid (think they are called Thumpers?) octopus jigs in 3 and 5.5 ounce that have worked in the past for triggers and black sea bass. Use these with a controlled drift and bump the bottom pretty steadily. They have the two small assist hooks. Usually tip them with a strip of squid or cut bait, but not sure how legal that is now? Probably need to switch them out to circles when used with cut bait.
To the OP, the Big Nic jigs will definitely work most times but the last two times I went out, the B-Liners and other bottom fish would only hit cut bait. Also they normally are up in the water column but did not find that to be the case this time. I will say that we had porpoise and a 12 foot tiger shark around for a good part of the day, that may have affected their disposition a bit!
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Originally Posted by CAP1 View Post
Where did you find the inchiku style jigs? The only place I have found them is on ebay, which I avoid if possible.
hahaha...ebay! They are Black Dog jigs which I've had good luck with over past 10 or so years. Used to order them direct, but thought the guy went out of business. For some reason, they are on eBay. Something like $26 for the 8 jigs, I believe.

Edit: $30

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-130G-4-80...53.m2749.l2649
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I'm going to be painting and tying up some of these in about a month or so. Will be powder coated with bucktail.
See how it goes. Retired now, so something to do when I'm not fishing.
Bottom is 5oz, then 3,3,1 1/2. Duratin hooks and Black nickel on the 1 1/2.


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Originally Posted by schoolsout1 View Post
hahaha...ebay! They are Black Dog jigs which I've had good luck with over past 10 or so years. Used to order them direct, but thought the guy went out of business. For some reason, they are on eBay. Something like $26 for the 8 jigs, I believe.

Edit: $30

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-130G-4-80...53.m2749.l2649
I've actually had good luck with larger jigs that were purchased from that exact Ebay vendor. Got some 500g jigs for the deeper grouper in a slightly different style
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Originally Posted by rgmaree6 View Post
I've actually had good luck with larger jigs that were purchased from that exact Ebay vendor. Got some 500g jigs for the deeper grouper in a slightly different style
the octopus style? I've had one from him for 5 years or so, but have not really used it. Want to try it next time I'm out deep enough when deep dropping.
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Originally Posted by schoolsout1 View Post
the octopus style? I've had one from him for 5 years or so, but have not really used it. Want to try it next time I'm out deep enough when deep dropping.
No, speed jigs.
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Sorry for the hijack OP. To actually contribute, these
Palomar jigs Palomar jigs
that I found on Amazon have been by far my best producer from 75 ft to 450 ft.
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Originally Posted by rgmaree6 View Post
Sorry for the hijack OP. To actually contribute, these Palomar jigs that I found on Amazon have been by far my best producer from 75 ft to 450 ft.

What weight's are you using at each depth you fish? I think I've been on the heavier side of things than I should be (recently read that some have said 2g/foot of depth). I've spent more money on jigging stuff than I care to admit and have really only spent a few hours, total, doing it. Also, on those jigs you linked to, why are the hooks on the bottom end instead of where you tie your line like other similar jigs?

This is the octopus jig I have from him... https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-500g-17-6...pe!29410!US!-1
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Originally Posted by schoolsout1 View Post
What weight's are you using at each depth you fish? I think I've been on the heavier side of things than I should be (recently read that some have said 2g/foot of depth). I've spent more money on jigging stuff than I care to admit and have really only spent a few hours, total, doing it. Also, on those jigs you linked to, why are the hooks on the bottom end instead of where you tie your line like other similar jigs?

This is the octopus jig I have from him... https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-500g-17-6...pe!29410!US!-1
My rule of thumb is 1 g/ft and take into account mouth size on target species, 100g for BSB and small porgies, up to 350 grams for large grouper in 300-500 ft of water. Had plenty of AJ and African pompano hit the big jigs as well. I typically tie to the solid ring to allow the jig to flutter so the hooks end up on the top. They include a loop on each end to customize hook placement and action.
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