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Old 04-01-2020, 04:13 AM
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Seems like there is a group of people that just don't get it. I've got a friend that is a doctor on the front lines fighting this virus. I asked him if it was safe to fish with friends? He said the following: This virus is 10 times more contagious than the flu. In the majority of cases the symptoms are mild. In 10% of the cases "your numbers up. Nothing we can do."
I think the misconception is the 10% that are going to die is predominantly the old and compromised. I'm seeing people die that are 30, 40 and 50's. I now fish alone or with my wife only.
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Originally Posted by Water Intrusion View Post
I keep my boat on a lift in my backyard, so I'm planning on going out this weekend (it's the only way I can keep any semblance of sanity) unless they put a chain up across Shem Creek. And I briefly pulled over to talk to a buddy near the beach area on DI - this was on Sunday around noon I guess - no other boats when I was over there, but then again I wasn't there long.

No anchoring anywhere this weekend, so I'll probably take the woman and do some fishing finally.
Curious, are fuel docks open?
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Curious, are fuel docks open?
That I don't know. I purchase all my fuel from gas stations and fill up in 5 gallon cans, 20 gals at a time. I know last weekend that the Magwood/Simmons place on Shem Creek seemed open, but I can't figure that place out. I'd like to fill up over there and stop the ushering back and forth to the gas stations, but it's confusing over there - always a ton of boats just tied up and no one seems to know what's going on. I've tried, but always give up after a couple mins. If anyone uses that place and could clue me in on the routine or if there's a magic phrase or something, I'd love to know.
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Originally Posted by tarpononecharter View Post
Seems like there is a group of people that just don't get it. I've got a friend that is a doctor on the front lines fighting this virus. I asked him if it was safe to fish with friends? He said the following: This virus is 10 times more contagious than the flu. In the majority of cases the symptoms are mild. In 10% of the cases "your numbers up. Nothing we can do."
I think the misconception is the 10% that are going to die is predominantly the old and compromised. I'm seeing people die that are 30, 40 and 50's. I now fish alone or with my wife only.
stop spreading BS.
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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
stop spreading BS.
Your screen name says it all, Fish'nFool.
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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
stop spreading BS.

What, exactly, is BS?

Gov had to take those actions because idiots were still congregating in party coves.

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Originally Posted by N2theblue View Post
What, exactly, is BS?

Gov had to take those actions because idiots were still congregating in party coves.
The BS is that some folks can't differentiate between the idiots (party crowd) and private families enjoying their own boats with their tight group of family whom they are already around. Also that law enforcement appeared to just be ridding around observing said idiots, rather than breaking them up.

Sandbar/raft up crowd - idiots

Private families - not idiots

Folks that can't differentiate the two and think being a hermit is the only way to be responsible - bad at using logic. Likely married to a "karen" and spend a lot of time listing to her yap at the manager.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
The BS is that some folks can't differentiate between the idiots (party crowd) and private families enjoying their own boats with their tight group of family whom they are already around. Also that law enforcement appeared to just be ridding around observing said idiots, rather than breaking them up.

Sandbar/raft up crowd - idiots

Private families - not idiots

Folks that can't differentiate the two and think being a hermit is the only way to be responsible - bad at using logic. Likely married to a "karen" and spend a lot of time listing to her yap at the manager.
I don't think anyone is saying they CAN'T figure out who's being responsible and who isn't. What's being said here is that SC has chosen to not dedicate resources to constantly patrolling these areas.
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Originally Posted by jj1987 View Post
I don't think anyone is saying they CAN'T figure out who's being responsible and who isn't. What's being said here is that SC has chosen to not dedicate resources to constantly patrolling these areas.
My question is what are all those DNR guys doing? Interrupting turkey hunters? It's not like there is a massive traffic situation like a hurricane evacuation they need to assist with. They can maintain regular patrols while simultaneously being a phone call away if the SHTF.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
My question is what are all those DNR guys doing? Interrupting turkey hunters? It's not like there is a massive traffic situation like a hurricane evacuation they need to assist with. They can maintain regular patrols while simultaneously being a phone call away if the SHTF.
I can't speak for SC, but GA has a very, very thinly staffed DNR patrol. Down here they're basically shouting at people to not raft up and don't have the resources to issue tickets one by one-- nor do I think the state wants the officers that close to that many people for no good reason. I suspect we'll shut the ramps down as well in the near future, based on the complete lack of respect for the rules I witnessed last weekend.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
The BS is that some folks can't differentiate between the idiots (party crowd) and private families enjoying their own boats with their tight group of family whom they are already around. Also that law enforcement appeared to just be ridding around observing said idiots, rather than breaking them up.

Sandbar/raft up crowd - idiots

Private families - not idiots

Folks that can't differentiate the two and think being a hermit is the only way to be responsible - bad at using logic. Likely married to a "karen" and spend a lot of time listing to her yap at the manager.

Just like so many other things in the world, some folks are ruining it for everyone else.

But that was not what Fish N Fool was referring to in his post.
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Originally Posted by N2theblue View Post
What, exactly, is BS?

Gov had to take those actions because idiots were still congregating in party coves.
The BS second/third hand theories from someone that knows someone statistics being thrown out.

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Originally Posted by tarpononecharter View Post
Your screen name says it all, Fish'nFool.
Says the fool spewing statics implying somehow that the non high risk groups are equally at risk. I've had my fill of the fearmongering theories and 'I have a friend that said,,,,' he said she said stuff.

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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
The BS is that some folks can't differentiate between the idiots (party crowd) and private families enjoying their own boats with their tight group of family whom they are already around. Also that law enforcement appeared to just be ridding around observing said idiots, rather than breaking them up.

Sandbar/raft up crowd - idiots

Private families - not idiots

Folks that can't differentiate the two and think being a hermit is the only way to be responsible - bad at using logic. Likely married to a "karen" and spend a lot of time listing to her yap at the manager.
agreed
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Sorry but 10 percent is a complete BS percentage. We should all get our facts straight before putting them on the web. While it is true that very, very few younger adults have died from the disease, they are not at all in the high risk group. Those under 64 have less than a 3% chance of dying from this disease. I don't want anyone to lose their life but I also shouldn't be punished if I'm responsibly boating/ fishing. I for one wouldn't boat or fish with friends at this point but that's my choice. Here are the true numbers at this point from the CDC website as of 3/26/20
Fatality is highest in those 85 and older at up to 27% - this is scary for those who have older parents and grandparents alive
65-84 is between 3-11%
55-64 is between 1-3%
20-54 is less than 1%
No fatalities for those 19 years of age and younger

So if you are under 80 years old, your chances of beating this are extremely high according to those numbers. As you get to those 65 and younger it would almost be a miracle if you died from it. Again, I don't want to lose anyone. Those are just the straight facts at this point. Would be interesting to put the flu numbers up against this to see the differences. I know this is much more contagious and easier to spread.

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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
Says the fool spewing statics implying somehow that the non high risk groups are equally at risk. I've had my fill of the fearmongering theories and 'I have a friend that said,,,,' he said she said stuff.

That's not what I read from his post, but I'm not gonna bother attempting to reason with someone on this board.
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Originally Posted by N2theblue View Post
That's not what I read from his post, but I'm not gonna bother attempting to reason with someone on this board.
If that wasnt the intent then I apologize for my overreaction but I'm not sure the other statics cited were accurate either.
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Originally Posted by Windham14 View Post
Sorry but 10 percent is a complete BS percentage. We should all get our facts straight before putting them on the web. While it is true that very, very few younger adults have died from the disease, they are not at all in the high risk group. Those under 64 have less than a 3% chance of dying from this disease. I don't want anyone to lose their life but I also shouldn't be punished if I'm responsibly boating/ fishing. I for one wouldn't boat or fish with friends at this point but that's my choice. Here are the true numbers at this point from the CDC website as of 3/26/20
Fatality is highest in those 85 and older at up to 27% - this is scary for those who have older parents and grandparents alive
65-84 is between 3-11%
55-64 is between 1-3%
20-54 is less than 1%
No fatalities for those 19 years of age and younger

So if you are under 80 years old, your chances of beating this are extremely high according to those numbers. As you get to those 65 and younger it would almost be a miracle if you died from it. Again, I don't want to lose anyone. Those are just the straight facts at this point. Would be interesting to put the flu numbers up against this to see the differences. I know this is much more contagious and easier to spread.
Old/incorrect data. We have had kids and babies die, and an increasing rate of 20-40 yr olds dieing when they were otherwise healthy. They aren't sure why at this point but it is happening.
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As a primary care physician, my opinion is any statistics being thrown around right now are SWAGs at best. There isn’t enough reliable data to make assumptions. We may know what number of deaths but we have no idea of the true disease burden in our society.
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So we have enough DNR officers to do lake based ID checks in close contact and hand out $500 tickets, but not enough to bust up the sandbar parties.



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