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Old 08-12-2019, 06:09 PM
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so for some reason this year (it seems worse this year then years in the past) when we hook up on a fish every boat in eye sight descends on us like flies on a hot turd. we're live bait fishing so it's pretty obvious when we have a fish on. I can understand folks being interested in what it is or how big it is, but, damn can ya give a brother a little breathing room. we had a boat this past Saturday who literally trolled circles around us while we were hook up to a pair of kings and the same thing later in the day with a pair of cobia. a couple times they damn near came with in spitting distance.

I pretty much keep my mouth shut cause I know everyone wants to catch fish and when the bite is slow you see someone hooked up it's extremely tempting to want to find out what it is. but how about calling me on the radio? I'll gladly respond and give you whatever info you want. I want everybody to go out there and catch fish and have a good time (same thing with catching bait but thats a whole other topic). And the last thing I want to do is run over your lines or cut you off but sometimes fish do some crazy stuff and we have to maneuver pretty quickly so sometimes it happens.

maybe im just an asshole. but I always thought it was common curtesy to give the guy who's hooked up a little room.

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Old 08-12-2019, 07:37 PM
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I know what ya mean. I’ve been both you and them when I first started fishing as well 30 years ago. It’s not too much to ask a little love for distance.
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Old 08-13-2019, 03:58 AM
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I have had one troll so close that there line snagged my line that had the fish on. We got his rig up to the boat and cut it off, told him if he wanted it back he had to come get it. Its now hanging from my rear view mirror, very nice islander. Same thing when we are just off the beach trolling for Spanish and the Cape Lookout sandbar junkies come zig zagging through. Cant they just bare offshore a tad and go around? So people are just that stupid or that much of an ass.
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Old 08-13-2019, 04:27 AM
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Yea...similar thing happened to me out at the Liberty Ships out of Port O'Connor on opening day of snapper season this year. hooked up with a fish....fighting it in and then we hooked up with a gigantic Yellowfin!!!...
...39 footer to be exact!....You have to be pretty close to tangle lines between two boats when you are bottom fishing.....just saying.
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:02 AM
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A memory from way back is when I and 2 buddies came near a charter boat with a school of Dolphin. He yelled at us: "find your own school."

We did and caught 40 6 pound Dolphin! That captain made quite an impression on me.

Recently we hooked into a school of Dolphin and immediately folks descended upon us and really got in the way. What was proper in the 1960s has gone the way of the nickel cigar.
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:19 AM
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No harm in politely asking them to move and why.
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:35 AM
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Time to celebrate your sucsess by standing on the bow of your boat and shooting off some bottle rockets or roman candles......But definitely not in the direction of the other boat,that would just be wrong
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:52 AM
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I had a guy in a new Yellowfin get so close to the back of my boat that I could have jumped on his boat from my motors. I was live baiting 10 miles off with a nice slick that I started 2 hours prior. My lines were touching the front of his boat he was so close. I yelled at him and he told me to F off, he's fishing this slick. I explained that that slick is coming from my chum bag and he tells me to F off again, and that I don't own the ocean or the slick. I decided to start pelting him with 2oz lead sinkers, he finally moved. That was a long time ago when I was a lot younger and more of a hot head. Now if that happens, I just move.

It happens bait fishing all of the time, but that doesn't bother me much. I actually explain to the people on the other boat how I'm finding the bait on the bottom machine and it works a lot better than having the GPS on the screen and just following the guys catching. Usually they are happy with it since they are new to fishing and just didn't know. What really annoys me is the big sport fish charters running their radars looking for stopped boats so they can come over and catch what you're on. I had one guy come flying up from miles away and cut me off from a log that I was catching dolphin on. He did tight circles with his bow thrusters to basically push me off of it so his customers could catch fish. I called him on the radio and he said tough shit, I have customers that want to catch fish. I don't mind sharing, heck, I've caught my 2 or 3, then called other boats over to get some too. Just be courteous.

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Old 08-13-2019, 06:07 AM
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Azzholes know no limits, and there's one behind every wheel that does that.....
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:09 AM
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Increased population, increased number of boats, and the self-entitlement thingy all wrapped up into one.
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:26 AM
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Had this happen last year with a very popular light blue charter boat on the Morehead city waterfront figured they would know better... was high speed trolling at the swansboro hole giving everyone plenty of room staying out of the crowd when I hooked up with a wahoo we slowed down to winch the fish in and I look up and that certain blue boat is making a beeline right towards me they proceed to pass just off my stern no idea how they didn’t snag my line as i still had a large amount of line out... anyways I just shook my head and threw a 50lb hoo in the box and went on about my business
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:28 AM
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We had something a little different happen this year. We were fishing a tournament out of MHC and were on a well known wreck that has won a lot of money in tournaments and won quite a few tourneys the last couple years. Well there were about 12-15 Live baiters working this wreck hard. Everyone was staying out of each others way and being cordial and then here comes Mr. Bottom fisherman in his brand new ranger bay boat with a tower. He pulls right up in the middle of everyone and drops his trolling motor right on top of the main wreck. Dumb but nothing I can do and he has a young kid so have at it. Well we are making a pass and get cut off by another boat and have to troll 30-40 feet off his side. As we were going by the kid catches an undersize flounder and the guy goes "Did you get all the notes you needed?". Well I took it as he was proud of his kid and just said yeah he's impressive. Glad he's having a good time. Well apparently that is not what he had in mind and kept on about how we didn't even have to take him on a date for that screwing and insinuating we were taking his "numbers". I hate to break it to the guy but us and every other boat out there fishing that tournament that day probably have more numbers on that wreck than he could ever think of. Heck you couldn't even see our mark for his "spot" from the trails we had ran over it that day. Unfortunately you have guys like this teaching a younger generation these ethics and mentality.
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:29 AM
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Just cuz they can buy a boat.

Doesn't mean they know how to drive it.









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a few years ago I lost a 100 yards or so of some 120 JB hollow core around a guy's prop. came in behind my spread.

I really locked the drag down before I cut that line.
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:38 AM
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Think you need to be a bit more of an asshole...LOL. If you don't say anything, one boat gets close, then sees that you don't mind and another boat gets close, etc, etc.
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Originally Posted by 4/0 View Post
Just cuz they can buy a boat.

Doesn't mean they know how to drive it.









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a few years ago I lost a 100 yards or so of some 120 JB hollow core around a guy's prop. came in behind my spread.

I really locked the drag down before I cut that line.
I go to free spool when that happens. My trolling spreads are close and tight, so if you run my lines over, you are way too close to me. 300 yards around their lower unit and prop will hopefully make them think twice before coming that close to someone again.
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How close is too close at the ramp? I had a "closeness" incident last weekend and for the life of me, in hind sight, I can't figure out who was in the wrong.
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:20 AM
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We were slow trolling an AR catching schoolies and people just kept coming and coming to the point we had no room to fish it and the fish weren't biting. A charter boat captain I will not name called on the radio asking if anybody had any drone spoons, he had cash. He said he was at AR 3XX. Well, he wasn't there, he was at the one everybody was on. Everybody but me and another local boat pulled up and ran to the other AR... We laughed so hard that day.
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:40 AM
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Found a pallet with fish on it last year and started picking off nice dolphin trolling back and forth around it. We were intentionally trying to not go too close to it and scare off fish. Some ass hat in a rented HOBA boat out of Charleston decides to run from 1/2 mile away and proceeded to park his boat directly on top of the pallet. Dolphin scattered as expected and only fish we found that day we're gone. Brutal. Im still mad just thinking about it.
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Old 08-13-2019, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by richeerich View Post
Think you need to be a bit more of an asshole...LOL. If you don't say anything, one boat gets close, then sees that you don't mind and another boat gets close, etc, etc.

I am intentionally not trying to be a douche canoe cause I've always said you need more friends than enemies when you're offshore. plus my boat is pretty recognizable, there aint many onslow bays with white hull sides, a navy blue bottom and a silver boot stripe running around. And the last thing I won't to be known as is the asshole no one likes. cause like I said I'll gladly help anyone out just call me on the radio 16 or 68 and if I hear ya I'll answer.

oh and while we're on the subject. you guy's starting out, if you see someone throwing a net on a pod of bait don't just run right up there on them. let them get theirs and when they leave it's all yours, hell sometimes we catch more bait than we need and I'll gladly give you what I don't need.
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by evanP220 View Post
I am intentionally not trying to be a douche canoe cause I've always said you need more friends than enemies when you're offshore. plus my boat is pretty recognizable, there aint many onslow bays with white hull sides, a navy blue bottom and a silver boot stripe running around. And the last thing I won't to be known as is the asshole no one likes. cause like I said I'll gladly help anyone out just call me on the radio 16 or 68 and if I hear ya I'll answer.

oh and while we're on the subject. you guy's starting out, if you see someone throwing a net on a pod of bait don't just run right up there on them. let them get theirs and when they leave it's all yours, hell sometimes we catch more bait than we need and I'll gladly give you what I don't need.
I feel your exactly. I've had other people hail me on the radio to ask what I am doing if on the troll or bottom fishing, and it doesn't bother me a bit to tell them where the fish are. It's a big ocean out there, but people who haven't done this as long don't know what else to look for other than a boat catching fish as far as how to find them. I've had people call me on the radio, helped them, and in return I've booked them on a charter on my boat a week later. What goes around comes around
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