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Old 07-09-2019, 10:46 AM
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We have all seen posts both for and against Gill Nets in NC. Just looking for a simple head count.
Should Gill Nets be banned in NC?
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Old 07-09-2019, 12:24 PM
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I don’t think they should be banned, just the use of them changed-if the net is in the water you must be within 50 yds of it, no setting it and leaving it to soak for many hours.
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Never seen that, hard to believe there are many that do that. Is that something you see often?
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Never seen that, hard to believe there are many that do that. Is that something you see often?
Not nearly as many as in years past, between the sea turtle huggers and the likes Of Louis Daniel who was once head of the NC DMF they have pretty much succeeded in wiping out most gill netting in NC waters along with strong support from the NC Wildlife Federation and the NC CCA.
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There are still plenty around Wilmington.
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I for one don't have nearly enough information from both sides to be able to get to an educated position on a question of absolute ban; I suspect most don't.
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Originally Posted by gillnetflounderman View Post
Not nearly as many as in years past, between the sea turtle huggers and the likes Of Louis Daniel who was once head of the NC DMF they have pretty much succeeded in wiping out most gill netting in NC waters along with strong support from the NC Wildlife Federation and the NC CCA.
Gillnets have not been "wiped out in NC"-

2018 data has not been released yet by DMF. Here are the previous nine years through 2017-




I happen to have 2011 data in a file on my computer and it's not too different than recent years.









I am sure someone will chime in to try to discredit the number. These all came straight from NCDMF.

I am sure someone will point out that 22,782 large and small mesh gillnet trips in 2011 doesn't match the 25,450 estuarine gillnet trips reported in total. The difference is strike nets and float nets. The 22,782 trips are anchored only. Add those in and the yardage increases.

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Yes absolutley.
Compare inshore fisheries of NC to those of SC
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There are a lot of thing the DMF needs to ban or at least better regulate. Its not the weekend hooker that is killing the numbers, but they are the ones getting punished more. And yes I know these guys have to make a living also, but there needs to be some compromise.
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I don't really have an issue with the gill netters, long as they give respect to the people fishing an area. I miss seeing all the guys netting spots, those were always the best people to have conversations with, many times we launched with them and would talk a bit.
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Originally Posted by OGR8 View Post
We have all seen posts both for and against Gill Nets in NC. Just looking for a simple head count.
Should Gill Nets be banned in NC?
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A vote from us THE PEOPLE is how it’s supposed to be.
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Below is what I'm recommending to those who will listen-

So far Transfers have been addressed. A couple of the points below can be tweaked when the commercial sector is willing to come to the table in good-faith.

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I don't really have an issue with the gill netters, long as they give respect to the people fishing an area. I miss seeing all the guys netting spots, those were always the best people to have conversations with, many times we launched with them and would talk a bit.
They ruined the spot and mullet fishery here for our lifetime atleast.
NO, I don’t REALLY think you should have shot them. Maybe rip up some nets.
Think ill I’ll change my handle to “ Net Ripper”

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The number of annual estuarine gill-net trips averaged 39,000 from 1994 through 2011. The declining trend in total estuarine commercial fishing trips is also reflected in the number of estuarine gillnet trips. Estuarine gill-net trips declined from a high of 51,000 in 1997 to 25,000 trips in 2011. This is also from the DMF website and to make it simple: Gill net trips in NC estuarine waters have dropped a little over 50% within the past 20 years and is continuing to drop. Think the same can pretty much be said about shrimpers as well but a few folks will not stop until every net is removed from our waters. Just ate a mess of jumping mullet a few ago caught by a small gill net and am in no hurry to give it up
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When measuring Effort an inch doesn't equal a foot, yard or mile...neither does a "trip" necessarily equal another "trip".

When headrope size went from 60-feet to 220-feet trips declined more than 50% yet pounds of shrimp landed stayed static for forty years.

The same happened with gillnets when the Florida boys came to NC and showed us how to use a net reel boat to set 1,000s of yards of net versus the few a man was willing to pull by hand.


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The thing that makes me pissed the most is the gill net haters that will tell you what reasturant has the best she crab soup or local shrimp. And don’t give me that Bs about you only eat seafood you catch yourself.
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Not only has trips gone down but so has the amount of nets over the years. Any freeking way you slice it effort has dropped significantly over the years from commercials due to more and more restrictions. From the DMF website regarding this issue: "After the implementation of Proclamation M-8-2010, large mesh gill-net effort decreased considerably based on gill-net effort comparisons from 2009 (pre-settlement agreement) through 2011 (post-settlement agreement). The NTTP data for NC estuarine waters from 2009 through 2011indicate the amount of large mesh gill-net trips were reduced by 40% during this period (Table 5). Similar trends occurred with the amount of gill-net being fished with a 36% reduction of large mesh gill nets from 2009 to 2010 and 31% from 2010 to 2011 for a total reduction of 56% over the three-year period (Table 6). The NCDMF is confident that the management measures described herein will be adequate for conservation of sea turtles in North Carolina’s internal coastal waters""" Nuff said!
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Originally Posted by Tossedabout View Post

Should have shot them instead of talking with them.
They ruined the spot and mullet fishery here for our lifetime atleast.
NO, I don’t REALLY think you should have shot them. Maybe rip up some nets.

Think ill I’ll change my handle to “ Net Ripper”
I don't think they ruined it, when they were catching fish we were catching fish. There were also Recreational netters out, they were all fine folks and many people won't talk to them, but that's no way to be out on the water.
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Originally Posted by Tossedabout View Post

Should have shot them instead of talking with them.
They ruined the spot and mullet fishery here for our lifetime atleast.
NO, I don’t REALLY think you should have shot them. Maybe rip up some nets.

Think ill I’ll change my handle to “ Net Ripper”
hmm I think it’s a felony to rip nets. What kinda work you do? How would you feel about someone interfering with you making money to provide for your family?
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In a past life, I worked about 5 yrs as a federal fisheries observer. I think the policy makers should have to travel with an observer for a while before being allowed to make decisions on a fishery. I traveled the state from the NC/VA border to Little River and can assure you that gillnets are not the curtains of death many make them out to be. I know this is hard to believe, but in the hands of a decent fisherman, they can be more selective than anyone would ever believe

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