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Old 06-12-2019, 09:53 AM
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How has this topic not come up yet?
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:16 AM
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Hate to see it come to this but you ignore something for 15+ years somethings gonna give eventually. Don't really know how much of an impact the closure will have in rebounding the fishery without substantial changes to restrictions on water quality pollution whether it be septic, hog farms, lawn pesticides etc. as well as estuary trawling
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Old 06-12-2019, 02:19 PM
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Get the giggers and nets out of the inshore waters for a year and see the difference.
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Old 06-12-2019, 02:22 PM
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Cut the nets, save the fish.
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Old 06-12-2019, 03:12 PM
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Pull out the nets. Will return pretty quick.
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Old 06-12-2019, 06:16 PM
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NC netters are not the reason that flounder catches are way down from NC down to Florida. Kinda tired of NC gill netters and shrimpers being blamed for everything that is wrong and expect anytime for some idiotic group to start blaming the commercials for climate change.
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What is the bycatch to Keeper ratio with netting
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Old 06-12-2019, 06:50 PM
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Ashame, the gubment data is behind once again, takes too long to process most likely inaccurate data.
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One can also argue that modern day trolling motors have helped to decrease the stocks of flounder. I know inshore charter caps here run 2-3 trips daily to local reefs and limit out on all trips. Iv said in the past that Iíd take a hit on the gig side. 4 fish per person is fine rod and reel but like we proved last night, my wife and I can go out for 2 hours and stick a 2 person limit of nice 19Ē fish. We go out in the boat for 2 hours and get 1-2 fish. Nets have negative outcomes. Itís a net and by-catch is part of it. Do com guys need to make a living? Absolutely. Itís a hard subject to make laws about since nets are so close to where the flounder migration happens. Weíll see what happens with this but itís outcome could shakeup the fishery for every from rec guys, to charter captains, to com guys. Hereís a pic, sorry itís not the wife!
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:38 PM
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One can also argue that modern day trolling motors have helped to decrease the stocks of flounder. I know inshore charter caps here run 2-3 trips daily to local reefs and limit out on all trips. Iv said in the past that Iíd take a hit on the gig side. 4 fish per person is fine rod and reel but like we proved last night, my wife and I can go out for 2 hours and stick a 2 person limit of nice 19Ē fish. We go out in the boat for 2 hours and get 1-2 fish. Nets have negative outcomes. Itís a net and by-catch is part of it. Do com guys need to make a living? Absolutely. Itís a hard subject to make laws about since nets are so close to where the flounder migration happens. Weíll see what happens with this but itís outcome could shakeup the fishery for every from rec guys, to charter captains, to com guys. Hereís a pic, sorry itís not the wife!
The gigging is a HUGE factor as noted.
And, how many Marine Fisheries Officers are there out there at 12am, 2 or 4am to check compliance of anyone?......
Too many small boat backwater launches to ever be able to get a handle on those with nefarious intent.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gillnetflounderman View Post
NC netters are not the reason that flounder catches are way down from NC down to Florida. Kinda tired of NC gill netters and shrimpers being blamed for everything that is wrong and expect anytime for some idiotic group to start blaming the commercials for climate change.
take them out for a year and prove me wrong until then you play the same old record.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gillnetflounderman View Post
NC netters are not the reason that flounder catches are way down from NC down to Florida. Kinda tired of NC gill netters and shrimpers being blamed for everything that is wrong and expect anytime for some idiotic group to start blaming the commercials for climate change.
Just FYI for everyone, this is the same guy who thinks the government is using sharks to help with depopulation.
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ccat View Post


take them out for a year and prove me wrong until then you play the same old record.

Yup, at least once a week.
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Originally Posted by ECU_Pirate View Post
Just FYI for everyone, this is the same guy who thinks the government is using sharks to help with depopulation.
My comment was that millions of children have died in 3rd world countries since the removal of DDT due to the hype of rachal carson and her hugger followers from malaria spread by skeeters.. Anyways here is my original comment so see for yourselves: ""Wonder how many dangerous critters do we really need around to make the animal huggers content? I realize that these critters are only doing what is natural but do we need so many knowing darn well that these critters will eat humans and our pets if given the chance. Sometimes you really have to wonder if their real intent is to reduce the earth's population of humans since many of them believe that our planet has way more humans than it can support. I know that we made a hero out of Rachael Carson due to her reports on the evil of DDT but not told so much about the millions that have died from malaria due to her hype. PS, There is not a shortage of flounder as we are led to believe, mostly a scam to slowly starve commercial fishermen so they have to look for another job. I spent many fishing trips back in the 50's and 60's not catching a limit of fish but that did not mean there were no fish. Now days if a rec doesn't get a limit each trip then its due to commercials catching them all or so they are being told.

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Old 06-13-2019, 04:37 AM
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I donít understand how SC has a limit of 10 per person & 20 per boat but NC is only 4? I have never limited out fishing with rod & reel but have by gigging. That being said I feel there are way less people gigging vs rod& reel.
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Are you guys saying it has been closed, might be closed, will be closed? I knew the powers that be were working on stock assessment but I hadn't heard anything definite yet.
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Old 06-13-2019, 04:48 AM
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The gigging is a HUGE factor as noted.
And, how many Marine Fisheries Officers are there out there at 12am, 2 or 4am to check compliance of anyone?......
Too many small boat backwater launches to ever be able to get a handle on those with nefarious intent.
The gigging is the most selective form of floundering available. There's plenty of officers working the water at night as well as sitting in their respective trucks at the boat launching.
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:12 AM
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Think it is supposed to officially close to N.C. recs in August of this year. Interesting to see what SC, Ga, and east coast of Florida does with flounder since they teamed up with our NC DMF to determine that flounder are about to become extinct if drastic action is not taken asap. Still trying to figure out how these experts are able to ride out and count our population of flounder whenever they wish. Got about as much confidence in these just out of school scientist as I do the sea turtle counters. LOL
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Originally Posted by back at it View Post
The gigging is the most selective form of floundering available. There's plenty of officers working the water at night as well as sitting in their respective trucks at the boat launching.
Yes, gigging is selective. Also very efficient for those who are good at it.

Many of these guys never use any public facilities - they leave and return from private launches, docks, etc. and never see an enforcement officer.

Remove the giggers and nets for a while, and watch what happens.
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gillnetflounderman View Post
NC netters are not the reason that flounder catches are way down from NC down to Florida. Kinda tired of NC gill netters and shrimpers being blamed for everything that is wrong and expect anytime for some idiotic group to start blaming the commercials for climate change.
How can this be said when the numbers show that NC's commercial southern flounder fishery accounts for 95% of the total commercial harvest of southern flounder in the entire country? Let me guess....the numbers are wrong!


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