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Old 05-12-2019, 02:06 PM
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Anybody have any success with this product? I had some areas in my front yard that died off after the flood this past year. So I put some out today and am hoping for the best.
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Old 05-12-2019, 04:00 PM
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Water it every day. Mine just started coming up a few days ago.
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Old 05-12-2019, 06:35 PM
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Centipede is much more difficult to establish from seed than Bermuda. I would strongly recommend a soil test for the area you are trying to establish turf grass in
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:18 AM
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Barhopping is dead on - keep it evenly moist.

If you want to speed up the germination, get some KelpMax, and water the seed one time at a tablespoon per gallon with a hose-end sprayer. Once the grass emerges (or if you lay sod), hit it with 2 teaspoons per gallon, then repeat a month later to accelerate root growth so it'll get established faster.

No BS. The Phillies used it on their sod after the NHL game ruined the field a few years ago, and the Panthers have used it when patching their field in-season.
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Hoping someone is still reading this thread. Post-Florence, I got a new bulkhead and backfilled 20 dump truck loads of dredge material from where they were dredging a nearby channel, so basically now I have a 1/2 acre yard of fine sand/dirt. I was considering sodding centipede but didn't really get into it and now here June 5 my dirt yard is 25% Common Bermuda (wire grass, devil weed, whatever you want to call it) which is spreading like wildfire.

Dumb question - why is common bermuda hated so much and why wouldn't I just promote it and let it be my lawn turf? My yard floods (salt water) at least once a year - whatever grass I have takes a beating. Soil is sandy obviously. I'm just thinking it would be a waste of money to do anything other than let the common bermuda go nuts. I'm actually glad I didn't sod because I think obviously this crap bermuda would have invaded anyway. Let it go like this and even give it some nitrogen is what I'm thinking at this point. Any suggested alternatives or reasons not to go with this approach?


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If you are OK with it hit it with some "starter fertilizer" and be happy.
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Agreed. I guess I'm just wondering in advance why I wouldn't be okay with it. Why do people loathe it so - it's green, it spreads, stays reasonably thick, drought resistant, does fine with foot traffic... yet I can't find a single online resource for promoting it - only articles and threads on how to kill it.
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OP, as a few others mentioned, need to keep it moist. In other words, needs to be watered briefly multiple times per day until it is up good. If you aren't home all the time, get a spigot timer if you don't have an irrigation system, and hit it for 5-10 min every few hours.
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Originally Posted by one wolf View Post
Agreed. I guess I'm just wondering in advance why I wouldn't be okay with it. Why do people loathe it so - it's green, it spreads, stays reasonably thick, drought resistant, does fine with foot traffic... yet I can't find a single online resource for promoting it - only articles and threads on how to kill it.
Because it's not pure bred, golf course, award winning grass. You'll do fine to have it for the reasons you listed. It's durable, servicable, and grows like crazy. I'd promote the growth.
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Originally Posted by one wolf View Post
Hoping someone is still reading this thread. Post-Florence, I got a new bulkhead and backfilled 20 dump truck loads of dredge material from where they were dredging a nearby channel, so basically now I have a 1/2 acre yard of fine sand/dirt. I was considering sodding centipede but didn't really get into it and now here June 5 my dirt yard is 25% Common Bermuda (wire grass, devil weed, whatever you want to call it) which is spreading like wildfire.

Dumb question - why is common bermuda hated so much and why wouldn't I just promote it and let it be my lawn turf? My yard floods (salt water) at least once a year - whatever grass I have takes a beating. Soil is sandy obviously. I'm just thinking it would be a waste of money to do anything other than let the common bermuda go nuts. I'm actually glad I didn't sod because I think obviously this crap bermuda would have invaded anyway. Let it go like this and even give it some nitrogen is what I'm thinking at this point. Any suggested alternatives or reasons not to go with this approach?


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Not a huge fan of common, but hybridized work great. My entire yard is Sunsport which is a drought tolerant seeded bermuda. Downside to bermuda is mowing frequency. If conditions are just right, can easily be a every 4-5 day affair. Upside is it's easy to maintain and keep it looking good, with cheap chemicals. In your case if you like bermuda, integrate some peat into your sand and toss out some more seed. Or if it's a small area sod it with 417 hybrid, which is the "common" commodity turf bermuda, and pretty cheap for sod.
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My contacts indicated that St Augustine would be the most saltwater tolerant turfgrass that I could go with.

I replaced my front yard following the damage from Florence a few weeks ago(the day the 3 wk drought started!!) and went with Zoysia - couldn't be more pleased so far!!
Debating the same thing for now in the back yard on whether to seed with centipede or maybe try to move on with the mix of centipede and common bermuda that remains following the storm.
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My contacts indicated that St Augustine would be the most saltwater tolerant turfgrass that I could go with.

I replaced my front yard following the damage from Florence a few weeks ago(the day the 3 wk drought started!!) and went with Zoysia - couldn't be more pleased so far!!
Debating the same thing for now in the back yard on whether to seed with centipede or maybe try to move on with the mix of centipede and common bermuda that remains following the storm.
your contacts are a little off. Bermuda and St Aug can both tolerate some salt. But if you’re looking for true salt tolerance, seashore paspalum is your best bet. St Aug would be low on my list due to its susceptible to fungus. I also wouldn’t use it in an area that “takes a beating”.

To the op, nothing wrong with common Bermuda. It will fill in nicely with some fert and water.
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Old 06-05-2019, 06:16 PM
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Front yard is filling in nicely. I have watered the lawn everyday. However most of the filling in has come from the centipede stolons.
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Ever thought of Pas Pallum? Has to be one of the most salt tolerant grasses out there and thrives In the heat
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Hoping someone is still reading this thread. Post-Florence, I got a new bulkhead and backfilled 20 dump truck loads of dredge material from where they were dredging a nearby channel, so basically now I have a 1/2 acre yard of fine sand/dirt. I was considering sodding centipede but didn't really get into it and now here June 5 my dirt yard is 25% Common Bermuda (wire grass, devil weed, whatever you want to call it) which is spreading like wildfire.

Dumb question - why is common bermuda hated so much and why wouldn't I just promote it and let it be my lawn turf? My yard floods (salt water) at least once a year - whatever grass I have takes a beating. Soil is sandy obviously. I'm just thinking it would be a waste of money to do anything other than let the common bermuda go nuts. I'm actually glad I didn't sod because I think obviously this crap bermuda would have invaded anyway. Let it go like this and even give it some nitrogen is what I'm thinking at this point. Any suggested alternatives or reasons not to go with this approach?


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My take on common bermuda is its really not a bad grass. The pluses are its tough as nails and can take plenty of abuse, grows like crazy and is very tolerant of a myriad of herbicides to kill most any weed. Can even spray with round up in the dead of winter once its dormant to kill off weeds. The downside would be it takes a lot more work to keep looking its best if you are into that sort of thing. It will have higher fertilizer requirements, need water more often, and grows pretty quick so will need to be mowed more often. Also if you don't keep it thick and lush it lets in other weeds pretty easily in comparison to a centipede.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:03 AM
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One wolf, common sounds perfect for your situation. It is very salt tolerant, grows like crazy. Pump it with nitrogen. People love it because it grows like crazy and people hate it because it is invasive and grows like crazy. I am in the same boat as you. Lost 60 feet of bulkhead to the bitch Florence and had to have almost 90 tons of back fill brought in. I am debating Zosia sod because it grows slow or common seed because it will establish quickly and cheaper. Both are drought and salt tolerant.
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Because it's not pure bred, golf course, award winning grass. You'll do fine to have it for the reasons you listed. It's durable, servicable, and grows like crazy. I'd promote the growth.
Boomers want green thick grass, and don't mind using lots of chemicals (that run off and mess up our waters) to achieve that goal. Sea-grass, algae, and other crazy stuff that I never saw 20-30 years ago must be caused by the nutrient rich runoff. Oh, and the sewage treatment plants that dump millions of gallons of shit every time it rains. But oh no, a handful of boaters can't dump their poop...that's "pollution".
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One wolf, common sounds perfect for your situation. It is very salt tolerant, grows like crazy. Pump it with nitrogen. People love it because it grows like crazy and people hate it because it is invasive and grows like crazy. I am in the same boat as you. Lost 60 feet of bulkhead to the bitch Florence and had to have almost 90 tons of back fill brought in. I am debating Zosia sod because it grows slow or common seed because it will establish quickly and cheaper. Both are drought and salt tolerant.
Thanks for this. Same situation exactly. I was considering zoysia or centipede sod. Fortunately for me, in the month I took to think about it, the common bermuda and St. Augustine from the old lawn which is now buried under 1+ feet and 220 tons of new backfill dirt has grown up through the backfill and is taking over my new dirt at unbelievable speed. The rain this week is helping of course. I swear we can measure the new growth daily - it is insane. I'll send an updated picture to above later, you won't believe it. So I'll only suggest that if you haven't waited a month or two to see what comes up, might be worth the wait.

To think I was a little worried about how my backfill material, which is dredge spoils from a nearby channel that just happened to be getting dredged at the same time my bulkhead was being built and was available on the very cheap, would perform as turf soil. It is basically fine sand. I feared it would be too coarse to hold grass. On the contrary it is performing amazingly. The only issue is large shells that keep percolating up but my wife is staying on top of it with a bucket and a half hour of walking around and bending over every morning.
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Keep a check on dredge backfills. Salts will build up and any grass will suffer. I did the same from building 2 slips, backfilled with the spoils. After 3 years, still having a hard time with PH and salinity levels. Still looks good but could be better.
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Here's 1 week (7 days) of common bermuda growth. It is hard to believe.
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