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barhopping 04-15-2019 06:34 AM

Barden Inlet
 
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SEC NC BNM 136-19

NC BARDEN INLET ATON / SHOALING

MARINERS ARE ADVISED THAT SIGNIFICANT SHOALING EXISTS IN BARDEN INLET AND BACK SOUND BETWEEN BARDEN INLET BUOY 8 (LLNR 29180) AND BARDEN INLET BUOY 15 (LLNR 29210) TO AN AVERAGE CHANNEL DEPTH OF LESS THAN 3 FEET AT MLW. UNDER THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE INLET, THE AIDS TO NAVIGATION CAN NO LONGER BE CONFIGURED TO SAFELY MARK A PASSABLE CHANNEL AND THE AIDS TO NAVIGATION WILL BE DISCONTINUED. TWO DANGER SHOAL BUOYS WILL BE PLACED AT EACH END OF THE REMOVED SECTION. MARINERS ARE ADVISED TO USE EXTREME CAUTION WHILE NAVIGATING THIS AREA.

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eds500 04-15-2019 07:54 AM

Thanks for the notice. I see there is proposal on the table for the USCG to remove the navigation aids up to the #35 marker light which is the marker by the SE corner of Harker's where you make the southern turn headed to the lighthouse.

****NC – CAPE LOOKOUT – BARDEN INLET – PROPOSED AID TO NAVIGATION CHANGES****

Due to significant shoaling between Barden Inlet Buoy 8 and Barden Inlet Light 35, the Coast Guard is proposing to permanently discontinue the following 21 aids. The Coast Guard will continue to monitor the waterway and review USACE surveys to potentially remark it when water depths provide safe navigation throughout the waterway.
Barden Inlet Buoy 8 (LLNR 29180)
Barden Inlet Buoy 9 (LLNR 29185)
Barden Inlet Buoy 10 (LLNR 29190)
Barden Inlet Buoy 12 (LLNR 29195)
Barden Inlet Buoy 14 (LLNR 29205)
Barden Inlet Buoy 15 (LLNR 29210)
Barden Inlet Buoy 17 (LLNR 29215)
Barden Inlet Buoy 18 (LLNR 29220)
Barden Inlet Light 19 (LLNR 29225)
Barden Inlet Daybeacon 20 (LLNR 29230)
Barden Inlet Lighted Buoy 21 (LLNR 29235)
Barden Inlet Buoy 24 (LLNR 29205)
Barden Inlet Light 26 (LLNR 29245)
Barden Inlet Buoy 28 (LLNR 29250)
Barden Inlet Buoy 30 (LLNR 29253)
Barden Inlet Warning Daybeacon A (LLNR 29255)
Barden Inlet Buoy 31(LLNR 29257)
Barden Inlet Light 32 (LLNR 29260)
Barden Inlet Buoy 33 (LLNR 29263)
Barden Inlet Warning Daybeacon A (LLNR 29265)
Barden Inlet Light 35 (LLNR 29270)

Interested Mariners and other stakeholders are strongly encouraged to comment on the potential impacts this proposal would have on navigational safety. You may provide feedback using the U. S. Coast Guard Fifth District Waterway Data Sheet, available online at https:5th Coast Guard District Special Notice Waterway Feedback Form

All comments will be carefully considered and are requested prior to May 6, 2019 to be considered in the analysis. Refer to project number 05-19-029(D)

Send comments to CGD5Waterways@uscg.mil, or mail to:
U.S. Coast Guard Fifth District
Waterways Management (dpw)
431 Crawford Street, Room 100
Portsmouth, VA 23704
Attn: Ethan Coble
Portsmouth, VA 23704

LOCAL NOTICE TO MARINERS - District 5, Week 14/19
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jhendric 04-15-2019 08:08 AM

Is this different than what we have been dealing with last year?

Lunchmoney 04-15-2019 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by jhendric (Post 12435725)
Is this different than what we have been dealing with last year?

Yes... I think... Last year the buoys were pulled around the S turn. We ran it Monday and Tuesday last week and noticed it was shallow getting to the S turn coming from Harkers and there was also a spot between the S turn and the lighthouse that has gotten skinny.

FatCat1 04-15-2019 01:20 PM

The poles (put out by whomever) are right on the edges of the sandbar/water they are supposed to mark. Hug the first two green pole markers on the correct side and sorta hang out til past the bar a little on your left turn then straight toward the shoal marker going toward the cape. Ain't getting no better. What the hell happened to the extra "dredging fund money" taken from boaters with 26 plus boats?

jhendric 04-15-2019 01:28 PM

Got it. That area on the Harker's side of the s curve has been getting shallower and shallower, I bumped a few times last year...the S curve itself seems pretty consistent. Sorry to hear it's getting shallow on the Lighthouse side too!

PS..to whoever put the makshift markers up at the s curve...THANK YOU...you're waaay better that the corps of engineers!

FatCat1 04-15-2019 01:34 PM

The big question is this. If the damn water is not navigable and unsafe why the hell is the Park Service able to run passengers through it and disregard their safety?

FatCat1 04-15-2019 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by jhendric (Post 12436819)
Got it. That area on the Harker's side of the s curve has been getting shallower and shallower, I bumped a few times last year...the S curve itself seems pretty consistent. Sorry to hear it's getting shallow on the Lighthouse side too!

PS..to whoever put the makshift markers up at the s curve...THANK YOU...you're waaay better that the corps of engineers!

They did mark it a whole lot better. Lol!

bills106 04-15-2019 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by FatCat1 (Post 12436881)
They did mark it a whole lot better. Lol!

I'll tell him and to have him pass it on to his FIL who helped, he's here in my shop right now!

Fish_DOut 04-15-2019 03:18 PM

Are we going to have to mark all the inlets ourselves? Seems like the coasties just want to pull buoys and let us hope we know where we are going.

MarkAA 04-15-2019 04:10 PM

Thatís a lot of bouys. Is that everything between Harkerís Island and the light house? I know itís been skinny from Harkerís to the s turn as mentioned but hadnít noticed anything else being horrible. Even s turns not bad and with makeshift markers I think itís been easier to run too. Tow Boat has gotta be loving this.

gillnetflounderman 04-15-2019 05:17 PM

The Coast guard around here tends to spend too much time hauling turtles to the offshore waters and don't have the time to provide services to our mariners. From what little I know they only come to your rescue if you are a sink or save situation and I spent 4 years in the outfit back when they provided services for the boaters.

RED HEAD 04-15-2019 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by fatcat1 (Post 12436848)
the big question is this. If the damn water is not navigable and unsafe why the hell is the park service able to run passengers through it and disregard their safety?

exactly!!!!!!

FatCat1 04-16-2019 02:32 AM

Sent this to the Coast Guard this morning:

I'm concerned with the notice that the coast guard has given about parts of Bardens Inlet being unsafe for boaters and the proposed removal of navigation markers 8 through 35. The water is getting shallow, we get that, but my big question is this. If the water is truly unsafe for boating, why is the Park Service still navigating the waters and taking unsuspecting passengers on a dangerous journey through them and why if they are to continue utilizing the channel is money not being utilized to keep safe passage for these passengers? I think a notice should be erected at the entrance of the ferry service docks giving these passengers proper notice that they are taking their own lives into their hands. No navigational markers and a government sponsored transportation vessel running the public through unsafe passages may lead to a lot of potential lawsuits in the future. I myself will do all I can to warn my family, friends and others about the dangers of traversing these waters to the Cape Lookout Seashore and the due negligence of the government for sponsoring a transport system that would do so. Maybe a better solution would be to use the money that was imposed on boaters registration fees where it was supposed to go and dredge so that it is safe. Thanks for keeping us all safe in the meantime.

wahoojack 04-16-2019 02:59 AM

Does anyone have any word on when the Harkers Island Bridge is going to start operating again?

FatCat1 04-16-2019 03:10 AM


Originally Posted by wahoojack (Post 12438166)
Does anyone have any word on when the Harkers Island Bridge is going to start operating again?

Don't think it is....heard it is stuck for good after the last hurricane and the operator house was also damaged and no plans to repair. Just what I've heard.

DEXTERD 04-16-2019 04:33 AM

Building a new bridge soon. Doubt it will be repaired.

Greyrob80 04-16-2019 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by wahoojack (Post 12438166)
Does anyone have any word on when the Harkers Island Bridge is going to start operating again?

Looked like there were folks working on the operator house on Sunday.

brcarls 04-17-2019 10:38 AM

Could I request that the rednecks who take over marking this channel standardize the new markers. Put a barrel on top of the PVC pole for all green markers and a traffic cone on the PVC for all red markers... that way we can tell the difference when there is too much glare to see what color tape is on the cone!

Lunchmoney 04-17-2019 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by brcarls (Post 12442821)
Could I request that the rednecks who take over marking this channel standardize the new markers. Put a barrel on top of the PVC pole for all green markers and a traffic cone on the PVC for all red markers... that way we can tell the difference when there is too much glare to see what color tape is on the cone!

We went through there in the dark last Monday headed out and came back through in the fog that evening without any trouble. Either learn to interpret redneck markers or do it yourself. Or use Beaufort Inlet.


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