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Old 04-24-2019, 11:27 AM
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the park service like the dimmer light since it doesn't disturb their birds as much.
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:27 PM
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BTW, anyone notice the expenditures in the chart shown. Not surprisingly, Oregon Inlet got a WHOLE lot more than any other place. About 25% more than ALL THE OTHERS COMBINED.


And where is all the revenue from the increased cost of registration?
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Old 04-25-2019, 02:22 AM
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BTW, anyone notice the expenditures in the chart shown. Not surprisingly, Oregon Inlet got a WHOLE lot more than any other place. About 25% more than ALL THE OTHERS COMBINED.


And where is all the revenue from the increased cost of registration?
In some politicians pocket.
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Old 04-25-2019, 06:39 AM
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[QUOTE=nccoaster;12464571]BTW, anyone notice the expenditures in the chart shown. Not surprisingly, Oregon Inlet got a WHOLE lot more than any other place. About 25% more than ALL THE OTHERS COMBINED.[\QUOTE]
Thatís the way itís always been
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Old 04-25-2019, 07:27 AM
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BTW, anyone notice the expenditures in the chart shown. Not surprisingly, Oregon Inlet got a WHOLE lot more than any other place. About 25% more than ALL THE OTHERS COMBINED.[\QUOTE]
Thatís the way itís always been
Well last time I was up that way they did have a rather large number of very expensive charter boats that need lots of water depth to operate. Lots of money tied up in to those boats and people with lots of money own most of them. We also know that he who has the gold makes the rules and they also get the cream off of the top. Am not sure if the Harkers Island area even has a charter vessel any more along with very little commercial fishing demand for dredging since many of them have been put out of work due to so many rules.
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Old 04-25-2019, 08:45 AM
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I know that you know that Harkers hasn't had a large charter boat for a long time. I got pictures of my father after a charter trip out of Harkers from the late 70's. I know it's probably not even on the radar for dredging. If they don't, so be it. I ain't gonna let it bother me too bad. One reason, I just bought a shallow draft boat.
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Old 04-25-2019, 09:09 AM
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I was surprised to see a couple of trawlers heading through the bight last week. I ended up passing them later as I headed back before they got to the "S Turn", but they were definitely heading in that direction. I assume they were heading to HI?
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I filled out the form and sent it in. Lets see if I get a response.
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Old 04-26-2019, 06:07 AM
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I filled out the form and sent it in. Lets see if I get a response.
You won't, but not because they are not paying attention. Public comment is a standard (and often required) part of decision-making.

The CG doesn't want to abandon these markers....imo at least...but they cannot fulfill their duty to ensure a safe marked seaway without help that is beyond their control, i.e. dredging.

The tone of this release makes it pretty clear that they are TRYING to stir up the public to push the folks who CAN deal with the issue via dredging to make it happen.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:43 AM
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The part I donít understand is that the markers around the shallow part were removed a while back. The ones now are fine and plenty deep.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:59 AM
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Part of the problem with the markers from Harkers to the Light house is due to this: and yes I will probably catch holy hell for suggesting it so give it your best shot.
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Go here and type in Cape Lookout, NC in the location box and see just how futile dredging is: https://earthengine.google.com/timelapse/

Marking the channels best you can is about the only feasible thing to do. But like "jdc" says, the Coast Guard can't fulfill their duty of providing safe marking of a channel that changes so much, so often, and so drastically. They'd be back and forth over there every 7 days trying to re-mark the channel - do you really think that they have the manpower or money to do that?

For fun, put your cursor at the western end of Shackleford Banks and see just how much it has eroded in the past 5 years.
I like to set the playback speed a 1X or higher.
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:22 AM
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Part of the problem with the markers from Harkers to the Light house is due to this: and yes I will probably catch holy hell for suggesting it so give it your best shot.
Do you mean CG Academy graduates or women in the CG?
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NC_Native View Post
Go here and type in Cape Lookout, NC in the location box and see just how futile dredging is: https://earthengine.google.com/timelapse/

Marking the channels best you can is about the only feasible thing to do. But like "jdc" says, the Coast Guard can't fulfill their duty of providing safe marking of a channel that changes so much, so often, and so drastically. They'd be back and forth over there every 7 days trying to re-mark the channel - do you really think that they have the manpower or money to do that?

For fun, put your cursor at the western end of Shackleford Banks and see just how much it has eroded in the past 5 years.
I like to set the playback speed a 1X or higher.
^^THIS^^ Hurricane season is right around the corner. One good storm and the inlet will look totally different.
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Originally Posted by NC_Native View Post
Go here and type in Cape Lookout, NC in the location box and see just how futile dredging is: https://earthengine.google.com/timelapse/

Marking the channels best you can is about the only feasible thing to do. But like "jdc" says, the Coast Guard can't fulfill their duty of providing safe marking of a channel that changes so much, so often, and so drastically. They'd be back and forth over there every 7 days trying to re-mark the channel - do you really think that they have the manpower or money to do that?

For fun, put your cursor at the western end of Shackleford Banks and see just how much it has eroded in the past 5 years.
I like to set the playback speed a 1X or higher.
It's been fairly stable for the past 6 years since I started running it. Gradually getting shallower on the harker's side of the "s" ...no real strong current there....the hook itself is plent deep. I'll argure it's more stable than most inlets.
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Old 04-26-2019, 12:21 PM
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Do you mean CG Academy graduates or women in the CG?
both,

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Old 04-26-2019, 12:43 PM
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Old 04-26-2019, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NC_Native View Post
Go here and type in Cape Lookout, NC in the location box and see just how futile dredging is: https://earthengine.google.com/timelapse/

Marking the channels best you can is about the only feasible thing to do. But like "jdc" says, the Coast Guard can't fulfill their duty of providing safe marking of a channel that changes so much, so often, and so drastically. They'd be back and forth over there every 7 days trying to re-mark the channel - do you really think that they have the manpower or money to do that?

For fun, put your cursor at the western end of Shackleford Banks and see just how much it has eroded in the past 5 years.
I like to set the playback speed a 1X or higher.
Don't get me wrong. I respect what the coast guard does but I suspect they would probably have the time on their hands to move the markers and moving them every 7 days is exaggerating a bit. As Westco says most of the channel is good. Yes the S turn has changed but it's been marked, not by the CG but Westco and I don't think he's been out there every seven days moving them. There is some difference but plenty of water everywhere else. If it was my guess, the major hurdle with the CG moving them has to do more with "red tape" than actual work. Again, not their fault, just a bunch of bureaucratic bullshit.
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Old 04-26-2019, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NC_Native View Post
Go here and type in Cape Lookout, NC in the location box and see just how futile dredging is: https://earthengine.google.com/timelapse/

Marking the channels best you can is about the only feasible thing to do. But like "jdc" says, the Coast Guard can't fulfill their duty of providing safe marking of a channel that changes so much, so often, and so drastically. They'd be back and forth over there every 7 days trying to re-mark the channel - do you really think that they have the manpower or money to do that?

For fun, put your cursor at the western end of Shackleford Banks and see just how much it has eroded in the past 5 years.
I like to set the playback speed a 1X or higher.
Except we're not talking about the west end of shack, we're talking about a channel that has been there for years. I have used the same tracks for many years and with very little variation it's still the same. Yes some areas churn rapidly with hurricanes and nor'easters, but some do not. Where we live on Bogue Banks, the meandering channels in the sound have not changed materially in over a decade. Just because some areas change regularly doesn't mean everywhere does, that's just silly.
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