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Old 05-04-2018, 09:48 AM
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Hey ya'll, I've been struggling with my new new dock situation and need some advice. The entire dock setup is weird, and I just don't know how to best get in my spot safely and easily. Basically the docks are angled the wrong way (why I have no clue) and I have a boat next to me in the direction momentum will be pushing me (so I can't use momentum to drift into dock). I can't attach an image not enough posts. Also apparently can't post a link either so just delete the spaces in the following to see the image. (https ://drive .google. com/file/d/1jenwjloOg_ng7jnQos5oYE4MjIasDDQW/view?usp=sharing) To add insult to injury, there is also a roped off swim area behind me so doing a big loop wont work. I'm driving a 22 ft cuddy cabin, single prop, so getting the front end to swing if I throw it directionally in reverse is pretty difficult. Just looking for some advice. Been boating for about 8 years and this is the first dock situation that has really made me nervous. Thanks for any tips or tricks or suggestions you have!

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What type of boat/drive are you in?
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22 ft cuddy cabin, I/O. Single prop.
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Back down next to the swim area then pull in forward?
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So i had a similar situation a few years back... I cant see your image BTW but I am on my work computer and we have weird filters.

There were three ways that I solved mine - depended on the day and conditions:

1.) When my buddy had a boat next to me (or you could use the dock) - we put in a pipe that I would position in his rod holder (we just had small float docks between us) that I would have a passenger grab with a boat hook and swing us around into slip... this wasnt the best solution but it actually worked but I was only 18 feet at that time so a quick tug would pull stern around...if I was alone I would just idle and pull myself in a bit..

2.) BACK IN past the slip and just pull into it from the other direction so momentum can help you. Not sure how maneuverable your boat is in reverse.

3.) The one I settled on (because my boat was terrible in reverse) was that I would stick my nose into the slip and then reverse in the opposite direction from where I came... in other words: nose in, pivot stern 180 degrees from original direction, pull into slip coming from the right direction. sort of a derivative of #2 but instead of backing all the way down the finger and risk hitting boats you just do a "3 point turn" using your open slip as room to maneuver... I would do it so my nose would never leave the slip so if I messed up I could always just bump forward into my slip...

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Yea, number 3 sounds like probably the best bet since my boat is unsteerable in reverse. I'm gonna try it out this weekend, hopefully when no one is around to see me struggling to get in and out :-x New dock makes me feel like a noob!
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Having one or two of these on board may help a lot too, you could extend one out to 8 feet and grab a dock cleat and pull yourself in as long as you can get yourself reasonably close. They make a 12' version too I think.

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Old 05-05-2018, 08:18 AM
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Here's your pic ...
Looks like there's going to be some backing involved one way or another - either backing down then pulling in bow first, or heading in forward then backing in to your slip.
With the other boat there I think I'd prefer to back down past the slip, then pull in bow first.

Good luck! With practice you will nail it I'm sure.
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The docks are tilted to give you more space to manouever in and out of the dock, if they where 90° angle you would not have a lot/enough space to turn your boat 90° to enter the dock.
Back in between the swim area and the dock, then turn wheel and go forward on to your dock
if you dock with the stern to the pier then do it the opposite way, enter forward and then dock backwards
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Originally Posted by manningr22 View Post
Yea, number 3 sounds like probably the best bet since my boat is unsteerable in reverse. I'm gonna try it out this weekend, hopefully when no one is around to see me struggling to get in and out :-x New dock makes me feel like a noob!
Try trimming the lower unit up before backing up. It should steer much better.
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Originally Posted by ChrigelKarrer View Post
Back in between the swim area and the dock, then turn wheel and go forward on to your dock
This is what I am thinking. Can you back straight down parallel to and between the dock and swim area then pull forward into the spot? Getting out would be easier too.
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You can tie a line from the end of the dock to the port stern on the way in and let it pull the bow around then move the line to the port spring cleat and back down on it. Sometimes using a line for help is the only way for a single engine and the wind/current isn't helping you.
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Is there much current?
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Originally Posted by ChrigelKarrer View Post
Back in between the swim area and the dock, then turn wheel and go forward on to your dock
if you dock with the stern to the pier then do it the opposite way, enter forward and then dock backwards
Backing into the dock after driving towards the beach will be a problem - most single engine, right hand rotation boats don't do well turning to starboard in reverse.

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Try trimming the lower unit up before backing up. It should steer much better.
Unless you do this, which often helps.
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Bow thruster.

I don't get nearly as much practice as I need, so I use all available tools.
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I can't tell if you have room to do it, or if there is a cleat or post at the end of the dock you can use, but I needed to become adept in the tight spaces at my marina at using my dock lines, in conjunction with a little engine thrust, to get the boat going in the direction I need or swing out from or in behind another boat. If you have the room, could you ease up to the end of the dock, throw a line around a cleat, and use it to pivot you around and into the space?
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Looking at the diagram,
Docking - Pull forward and then back into slip.
Departing - Reverse of docking. Pull out of slip . Then back out of waterway.
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Originally Posted by scallen2112 View Post
I can't tell if you have room to do it, or if there is a cleat or post at the end of the dock you can use, but I needed to become adept in the tight spaces at my marina at using my dock lines, in conjunction with a little engine thrust, to get the boat going in the direction I need or swing out from or in behind another boat. If you have the room, could you ease up to the end of the dock, throw a line around a cleat, and use it to pivot you around and into the space?
I do this often, OP ease up to the dock and tie a line from you rear starboard cleat to the dock, then steer full to starboard in forward to swing the bow in. If there/s not enough room for that try tying to the mid/spring cleat on the boat and ease on in from there.
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Small electric stern thrusters are sold which I had not known about until the other day - google will give you an assortment . I don't know how much trouble your having but I think you'll figure it out - thrusters may be overkill . Odd dockage you have .

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