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Old 03-29-2018, 12:32 PM
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I bought a 18' privateer a few years back. It had two soft spots in the floor when I bought it. One around the inspection hatch in the stern and one in front of the console. If I place a 70qt cooler in front of the console, you would never know there was a soft spot there. LOL I fished it for two years, but now it is time to re do the boat. Planning on Coosa stringers with a diviniycell deck. (Unless someone has a better idea) Thinking about closing the transom and installing a stainless marine 7" mini bracket. Going to use the same 70 hp motor I had on it. Going to upgrade to hydraulic steering and probably a morse control although I have not decided on the control just yet. Boat is mostly used for inlets, rivers, and near shore fishing. Here are some pics. I started last Sunday. (25 March).



Console out, and all the wiring and such


Cutting the floor.


Wet and rotted wood around the deck.


Water saturated foam


All the foam removed. It took 10 30 gallon bags. Probably 300 - 350 lbs worth all told.


Foam removed and debris swept up.


I'm not great a taking pictures or remembering to take pics, but I will try to do my best and keep this thread updated best I can.

Still have to do some removal of old floor remnants around the edge of the boat before taking out the stringers. Thinking about putting a 30 gallon below deck fuel tank in her. What do y'all think about that?
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Old 03-29-2018, 12:49 PM
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I like the bracket idea with that low weight outboard, you may or will just limit your engine trim......
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Old 03-29-2018, 12:50 PM
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Have you checked out the transom yet? That's more easily done now while she's opened up and would be a shame to have to cutout the new later!

Coosa is fine for stringers, tab them out on the sides after grinding them down thoroughly and pull fillets (aka. radius's, rounds) in the joint between the hull/stringer. If you could cut the perimeter of the deck back to around 2" ( if it's not mush!) and can stand to raise the deck level 3/4", you can leave that as a ledger to catch the new deck. Since you're making new stringers anyway, no big deal to raise them 3/4" while you're at it. I'd also suggest Carbon Core or Plascore honeycomb for decking instead of D'Cell. Considerably less expensive and a better decking choice IMHO. Below deck tank is a good idea but I don't see where you'll be able to fit one.
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Old 03-29-2018, 01:56 PM
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Sub'd, I like these hulls.
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Old 03-30-2018, 04:45 AM
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Looks like a good start to your Privateer project. Im not to familiar with the hull, but looks like a good platform for a rebuild.

I like the idea of putting the fuel holding tank bellow deck....you may have to get a little crafty with the new stringer lay out to get it to fit....I would also run new rigging tubes below the deck as well.

Look forward to following your progress.
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Old 03-31-2018, 01:54 AM
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Cool project. Great hull, very worthy of restoration. Take Bills106 words as gold. He has been doing this a very long time with an excellent reputation in the industry. I look forward to watching this build unfold.
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Old 03-31-2018, 05:31 AM
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Is that a Privateer Roamer?
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Old 03-31-2018, 05:40 AM
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The 18 is called the "Retriever". I've had two. Great hulls. Just sold the last one to my bud and he did the stringer/floor job a year ago. Came out great, it's on the dock right now looking good.
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Old 03-31-2018, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Corndog38 View Post
The 18 is called the "Retriever". I've had two. Great hulls. Just sold the last one to my bud and he did the stringer/floor job a year ago. Came out great, it's on the dock right now looking good.
Thats right, I remember now, that was my very first boat and it was a solid boat, I regretted selling the boat many times.
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Old 04-01-2018, 03:16 PM
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Yes will do fillets and a bed of epoxy for the stringers. Transom is in good shape. No rot, very solid. I decided to go with the 7" stainless mini bracket but have also decided to do a 4" set back jack plate, so that should eliminate not being able to trim the motor all the way up. It is a retriever hull. Didn't get to do much this weekend due to other stuff and Easter, but hope to get the stringers out this week.

Some of y'all asked about where a below deck tank would go. I was think remove a section of the center stringer and put the tank there. Bulkhead both ends and stringer the rest of the center section like it is currently. What do y'all think about that?
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Without knowing the original layup of the hull an armchair opinion could be dangerous at best. The keel is probably the most important structure i n a hull and while some builders glass it heavy for syrength, others rely on internal (and or external) additional members.
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Originally Posted by bills106 View Post
Without knowing the original layup of the hull an armchair opinion could be dangerous at best. The keel is probably the most important structure i n a hull and while some builders glass it heavy for syrength, others rely on internal (and or external) additional members.

never heard of a hull cracking in half during operation. Not even a story of a catamaran folding up.

Put it together with nice bulkhead and stringers according to today's standards and you'll do great. That hull is a beauty
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Awesome! I'm going to be watching this one, as I am about to go pick up an 18' Bonito this afternoon and start rebuilding it.

I was thinking about an under-deck tank as well and raising the floor some for the tank and foam.
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Old 04-05-2018, 04:30 PM
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Got some work done today and yesterday. I started to remove the stringers and then remembered I needed to take pics. LOL In this pic you can see the outside stringers are already out. A cut off wheel on my grinder did the trick.

Here is a pic with all the stringers removed. Something I didn't expect was the center stringer being down lower than the others. I guess that is the keel section, it was about an inch lower. The center section of that stringer rotted out. Going to have to break out a chisel to get it clean. Also toward the stern section of the three center stringers about a foot from the transom water leaked out of one. Wasn't expecting that, but that why I'm replacing everything.



I sanded the areas where the old stringers were, I remember now why it has been 10 years since I redid a boat. Sanding glass sucks! But it is necessary so I wrapped my mind about the end product and sanded away. Still have a little more sanding to do but knocked the bulk of it out this afternoon.

Sanded.



I washed the boat down after sanding, that's why there is a little water in the pic.

I was going to do a under deck tank, but then decided to just leave it how it was with the tank under the console. Problem with that is I was going to run some PVC wire/rigging chases below the deck and come out under console. If I put the tank back under the console I will have no where for the chase tube to come up. Going to have to rethink that. Will hope fully finish sanding and get a layer of new glass down before cutting the stringers. I hope to have stringers cut by Sunday but we will see. That's the update for now. Did I mention how fiberglass dust gets everywhere?
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you'll have a new boat when you're done. She'll last another 30 yeas if done correctly. Keep up the great work. I found a 60grit flapper wheel to be a nice attachment on the 4inch grinder to finesse the glass and really smooth some glass down in prep for new glass.
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Just noticed your thread - great project!

On my Retriever, we also thought about under-deck fuel cell(s), but decided against it. My fuel cell is under the seat in front of the console - the whole thing is hinged so the seat tilts forward for full access.

One thing I wish I had done - raise the deck and the hull cap to accommodate a heavier motor (4 stroke). These hulls were not designed to hold the stern weight of a four stroke. My current motor as seen below is right at the edge of max weight, so my scuppers are right on the water line. I have about 90 lbs of lead ballast in the forward anchor locker and ball scuppers installed. Works fine, but in hindsight I wish we had raised the deck. I guess Privateer is (or was) selling a taller hull cap to accommodate the deck-raising mod.

We got lucky with the stringers on my hull - they were still solid as was the transom. Also, my hull had no flotation foam, and we did not add any with the rebuild. I have one small access hatch in the center of the deck in the stern for access to the bilge pump - never have had an issue with it in 12 years.

If you have any other questions, let me know. Looking forward to seeing your progress.
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Didn't get as much done this weekend due to weather. But I did manage to get the outside stringers roughed in. Still have a lot to do before they are 100% ready but progress.

Here are a few pics.

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Make sure you block up the boat carefully before glassing in the stringers. Hull is flexible right now and can easily twist. Stringers will partially lock in the twist and the deck really locks it up.

I use a length of 3/8" vinyl hose and use it as a water level. Cheap and accurate.

You may also want a few lateral ribs between the inboard stringers, span looks a wide there.
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Originally Posted by Corndog38 View Post
Make sure you block up the boat carefully before glassing in the stringers. Hull is flexible right now and can easily twist. Stringers will partially lock in the twist and the deck really locks it up.

I use a length of 3/8" vinyl hose and use it as a water level. Cheap and accurate.

You may also want a few lateral ribs between the inboard stringers, span looks a wide there.
Yes ribs will be installed. There is a middle stringer that goes down the middle that I have yet to cut. Good Idea on the vinyl hose.
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Got a few of the stringers glassed in over the weekend. Saw this little canopy at Northern for cheap, so I picked it up. Should be nice shade on the hot days.



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