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Old 09-20-2017, 06:39 PM   #1
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Default Raw water strainers for Crusaders

Hello, going to add raw water strainers to my Egg Harbor with Crusader engines, looking for suggestions or pictures of a similar set up.

I am planning on using Groco ARG Series Strainers. Recently put one in for my AC system and quite happy with it.
When the boat is out of the water I'll be changing out the sea cocks.
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Old 09-21-2017, 01:01 AM   #2
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Hello,, Groco all the way, including the sea cocks, whilst you´re at it check the condition of your backing blocks. If there is one tip I can recommend, take a look at the angle of the hoses to the strainers and to the raw water pumps from the strainers, you can buy all manner of angled hose fittings to make life much easier and not having to bend hoses, bronze fittings all the way and double hose clamps, you can make mounts for the strainers with epoxied marine play or stainless plate, do it bit by bit, location of strainers, then, hose fittings once you get a feel for what looks right, dishwashing soap works well to help slide hoses on, I would recommend shields hoses, trilaminate I think it is, mesh reinforced but without the steel spiral. Hope this helps.
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:48 AM   #3
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Thank you for you reply. I would like to keep the plumbing as simple as possible. Not sure on how to mount the strainers, there is a bit of distance to the hull sides and even to the forward part of the engine bay. I like the Idea of not having to bend the hoses, you can see how it is now, those were replaced just before I picked up the boat in July.
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Hello, looking at I think forward part of the engine bay looks good, easy access,just make sure that you can still reach the seacocks easily, perhaps use an angled hose barb from the seacock facing the strainer, then another to the raw water pump, not too complicated, those uses do look new, I would reuse them. Hope this helps.
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Hello, looking at I think forward part of the engine bay looks good, easy access,just make sure that you can still reach the seacocks easily, perhaps use an angled hose barb from the seacock facing the strainer, then another to the raw water pump, not too complicated, those uses do look new, I would reuse them. Hope this helps.
Thanks that is my plan, yes the hoses were replaced in July so I will reuse them. I think I'll do the strainers this fall and the sea cocks over the winter.
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I can't believe there were no strainers for the original installation!

These are what my boat came with. https://www.groco.net/products/raw-w...strainer-combo
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I looked at them but I think they will be too close to the front of my engines, great idea though.
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I would add a freshwater flush system in there somewhere unless your boat is in fresh water. Very clean bilge. Looks nice!
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I would add a freshwater flush system in there somewhere unless your boat is in fresh water. Very clean bilge. Looks nice!
Thats a great idea, I am in salt water. I bought one of these for my recently installed AC strainer, plan on doing it for the engine strainers too.

https://trac-online.com/product/trac-flushcaps
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I like the idea of flushing. I have no idea how much good it actually does, but it makes me feel better! Good luck with your modifications. It's always exciting to fix things like that. Are you doing a haul out? I was always just a bit nervous taking things like that apart while the boat was in the water. I know there is a seacock and everything should be fine, but........I have made a career of responding to situations where things have gone wrong. I always imagined a Wiley Coyote moment where I was holding the handle to the seacock as the boat sank out from under me! Post some pictures when you're done.
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I like the idea of flushing. I have no idea how much good it actually does, but it makes me feel better! Good luck with your modifications. It's always exciting to fix things like that. Are you doing a haul out? I was always just a bit nervous taking things like that apart while the boat was in the water. I know there is a seacock and everything should be fine, but........I have made a career of responding to situations where things have gone wrong. I always imagined a Wiley Coyote moment where I was holding the handle to the seacock as the boat sank out from under me! Post some pictures when you're done.
Thanks for the reply, I agree very nervous about taking things apart while its in the water (like sapping off a handle) I think the flushing will be for peace of mind more than anything, it will definitely help with winterizing.

This was my first attempt for my AC system, I have a 45deg fitting I will put on and replace that heater hose with a more rigid one (I don't like that bend even though I get good flow) and yes I snapped off the seacock handle, didn't realize I needed to loosen the butterfly valve first.
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mesh reinforced but without the steel spiral.
Mesh reinforced is meant for pressurized lines, not draw lines.
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that intake hose looks to be regular heater hose and not rated to be below the waterline or for marine use, should be marked with the blue stripe or with approved stamping on it,correct??
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I actually removed my engine room mounted strainers because my Egg was fitted with South Bay strainers on the outside. Was told by everyone that it was redundant.
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I actually removed my engine room mounted strainers because my Egg was fitted with South Bay strainers on the outside. Was told by everyone that it was redundant.
I like those but always wondered how they did with growth?
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Got them installed today, just need to add bonding wires.
(and paint the blocks)
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