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Old 08-12-2017, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWesson View Post
Wish it would work on the project i'm currently working on.

Works great on the side decks on my trawler.



Don't have pics of the gorilla glue repairs but they came out similar to yours.. Also very solid.
Do yourself a rediculous favor and get a oscillating multi tool buy extra blades and make quick painless work of the core. That is one place the right tool will blow your mind.
I got the Rockwell. I used it almost exclusively on my re core job. Beyond worth it
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Old 08-13-2017, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by hardtocontend View Post
Do yourself a rediculous favor and get a oscillating multi tool buy extra blades and make quick painless work of the core. That is one place the right tool will blow your mind.
I got the Rockwell. I used it almost exclusively on my re core job. Beyond worth it




no need to remove any of the dry rotted core material - just drill holes and inject gorilla glue...
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Old 08-13-2017, 06:09 AM
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nice to see you coming around....
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:55 PM
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where do you get gorilla glue in large quantities? my coring is 1 inch balsa. i'm gonna need a lot of glue
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Old 08-15-2017, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bigbill1963 View Post
where do you get gorilla glue in large quantities? my coring is 1 inch balsa. i'm gonna need a lot of glue
an 18oz bottle costs about $18 at home depot...might be able to find larger quantities elsewhere if you look online....to be honest...the stuff goes a long way...the picture below is what was left in the bottom of a container i was going to throw away...i mixed it with some water and let it sit...it was probably about 3/16" thick...thats what it expanded to...i can stand on the muffin and it wont compress...

filling a 1" deep void would be a task...would love to experiment with that...
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Old 08-18-2017, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
an 18oz bottle costs about $18 at home depot...might be able to find larger quantities elsewhere if you look online....to be honest...the stuff goes a long way...the picture below is what was left in the bottom of a container i was going to throw away...i mixed it with some water and let it sit...it was probably about 3/16" thick...thats what it expanded to...i can stand on the muffin and it wont compress...

filling a 1" deep void would be a task...would love to experiment with that...
Can you cut that finished sample peice in half to see if it is cured all the way through?
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Old 08-19-2017, 09:19 AM
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Can you cut that finished sample peice in half to see if it is cured all the way through?
I have and it has been as long as it is not trapped in a plastic container...the reason the sample I showed has 2 parts is just that...the lower portion still in the container was not cured when I removed the upper section (muffin)....then it cured readily...this is the reason for multiple holes in a panel when injecting....it will find its way, expand and cure throughout...while it is curing it also pushes out any excess water it does not use....it is an amazing process to watch...the first panel I did produced a huge amount of "ooze" and I ended up with a block about 8" x 8" that fully cured in very little time...the same day I was placing a 27 series battery on edge on the block without it deflecting the foam...the panels were solid as a rock the day I did them...they were sanded and painted on the backsides the next morning...these were 3 panels varying in size from 14 x 48, 30 x 48 & 36 x 60 inches...the floor I had no underside access to I injected through holes I drilled behind teak trim in the cabin...it was solid as a rock also...as the foam expands it oozes out pretty good...you just have to be prepared to monitor it and keep it clean for 30-45 minutes...
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We'll it hasn't quite been a year but I did this on a few areas on my trawler.

Still solid and no signs of cracking or delamination.

I'm in the process of recoring my flybridge and had an opportunity to see some repairs that had been made of the decades including my Gorrila Glue injection in a few spots and i'm very pleased with what I saw after cutting it out.

If you do this it will make recoring more difficult.. It will bond to both sides of the fiberglass and is strong as hell but you will have to grind it off the bottom and I wouldn't even think about applying resin to it(personal opinion based on a guess).

In short. If you're thinking about doing a recore the right way on a large area in the future then you maybe you skip this but if you have a couple of soft spots I think it's very good option as a quick fix knowing that if you have to redo the deck later you've created extra work.
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Originally Posted by MrWesson View Post
We'll it hasn't quite been a year but I did this on a few areas on my trawler.

Still solid and no signs of cracking or delamination.

I'm in the process of recoring my flybridge and had an opportunity to see some repairs that had been made of the decades including my Gorrila Glue injection in a few spots and i'm very pleased with what I saw after cutting it out.

If you do this it will make recoring more difficult.. It will bond to both sides of the fiberglass and is strong as hell but you will have to grind it off the bottom and I wouldn't even think about applying resin to it(personal opinion based on a guess).

In short. If you're thinking about doing a recore the right way on a large area in the future then you maybe you skip this but if you have a couple of soft spots I think it's very good option as a quick fix knowing that if you have to redo the deck later you've created extra work.
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any updates?

^^This^^
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^^This^^
Still going strong...

Not sure what else to say.
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Originally Posted by MrWesson View Post
Still going strong...

Not sure what else to say.
doesnt matter...someone would tell you youre wrong anyway...
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Old 06-12-2019, 05:52 AM
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I had cracks in my deck where there was some delamination and water intrusion into the plywood core. I dried it out and used CPES followed by thickened epoxy. I probably could have used gorilla glue and saved a bit of time and money. 4 years later I had to cut out the deck, not because of the soft spots that I repaired, but because of another problem. The spots that I had injected were in perfect condition when I cut them.
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lol...funny how that works...
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:21 AM
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Thanks for the idea and information.

In reading about foam products for a different application, I ran across several sources that showed how low density foam sheet is being used under roads as part of the bed, and is offering substantial benefits. Surprisingly, this was, I believe low density foam that one could squeeze an impression into with your hand, yet it was strong enough to support a road, and the vehicles traveling over it. Quite amazing, really.
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:52 AM
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i also have a repair to the pass through for the feed line in my baitwell....the wood was rotted around the hole where the pipe passed through...i rolled a piece of packaging plastic and inserted it into the hole...then i injected gorilla glue into several places around the hole...after it set i removed the plastic, sanded and painted...2 years later and many wells full of live bait it is holding up like new...easy to work with and effective as hell...


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