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Old 03-05-2017, 03:17 PM
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Got a call from a friend. He said he got stuck on the river fishing with his jon boat. He couldn't understand it because he installed a new hose line and bulb. I had him bring me the engine and immediately saw the fitting on the engine was really loose so I tightened it and that he had the gray hose I hate. I put it in the tank and fired it up.


Well, first thing is the pisser is steaming but no water. Long story made short, I told him it needed everything. After a new pump, gear lube (looked like tar), thermostat, fuel filter and such, I fired it up to have it stall. Here's what people get when they cheap out. I was able to pull the hose liner out.


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One season is all it's good for. If that.
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What brand or kind of hose is that ? I am looking at re-doing my system soon (the hoses are at least 10-12 yrs old) and seen some A1 hose that has a "Barrier Liner" to prevent fuel contact with the rubber (it says). Is that the bad stuff ? Other hose I've seen has some kind of "veneer" (which may be between layers of rubber). Just want to avoid getting new hose that is going to crap out due to ethanol.
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Originally Posted by geomike View Post
What brand or kind of hose is that ? I am looking at re-doing my system soon (the hoses are at least 10-12 yrs old) and seen some A1 hose that has a "Barrier Liner" to prevent fuel contact with the rubber (it says). Is that the bad stuff ? Other hose I've seen has some kind of "veneer" (which may be between layers of rubber). Just want to avoid getting new hose that is going to crap out due to ethanol.

The hose I removed has no brand name on it. This wasn't the first time I ran into this. The last time, the hose was also grey and had Mercury brand on it. In that case the liner dissolved and the carb looked like it had orange marmalade in the bowl.


It only hose I use is Trident brand USCG Type A1, SAE J1527. It's not very expensive either. A barrier liner is normal, but it matters who made it and where (HINT, HINT). Here's their website.


http://tridentmarine.com/product/tri.../#.WL34deQzVPY
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Excellent...thanks for the rec.
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That impeller has to set a record as the worst ever.
Surprised it pushed any water at all.
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Holy cow! I hope "your friend" appreciates all of this! That impeller is shocking! And it was still pumping some water? It's amazing how people let some stuff go.

I accidentally bought some of that hose last year not knowing what I was buying. It was made by Moeller. Unfortunately I sat on it too long, so I could not fight for a return. Grey with no markings and a clear liner. It almost looked like below deck water hose for boats. After doing lots of research, I just threw it away after deciding it was not worth the risk to even try it out.

I cannot count how many times I have read about this problem here and elsewhere about that particular color hose and the liner either collapsing and/or clogging filters. It should be removed from the market or outlawed.
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Originally Posted by Lt.mike View Post
That impeller has to set a record as the worst ever.
Surprised it pushed any water at all.
Mike

He kept insisting that it WAS pumping water. NO WAY! The only thing I got out of it in the tank was steam but not enough to steam a latte. LOL
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The grey attwood line sucks. I use if for my test tank and i hate it
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Where can one buy the trident fuel line? I don't want to get stranded and that stuff looks terrible.
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Originally Posted by MercuryMan200 View Post
Where can one buy the trident fuel line? I don't want to get stranded and that stuff looks terrible.

I purchase it by the roll from Amazon. West Marine sells 3/8 line for $6.50/ft. I get the 50ft box for $80 + $1.60/ft. and no shipping with prime.


https://www.amazon.com/TYPE-BARRIER-...368484&sr=8-14
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Thank you sir.
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Hello. X2 on Trident brand hose, really good stuff, not just fuel, but water, waste too.
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How does the trident hold up in the sun with UV bashing it all day?
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Originally Posted by johnny.dollar View Post
How does the trident hold up in the sun with UV bashing it all day?


Trident Barrier Lined A1-15 Fuel Hose for both gasoline (including ethanol blends) and diesel (including bio diesel blends). The #365 series exceeds ABYC H-24 & H-33, SAE J1527, ISO 7840, USCG Type A1-15; CARB Executive Order and EPA Certified low permeation Type A1-15; and is NMMA Type Accepted & CE certified. This hose is built with the best fuel, fire and age resistant formulation and a unique “Barrier Liner” on inside surface of the tube, so fuel is not in direct contact with rubber. Provides extraordinary resistance to fuel permeation, aging, and also to fire, heat, cold, and the ozone. Also provides excellent bend-ability
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I don't see UV degradation in your red txt.
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Originally Posted by johnny.dollar View Post
I don't see UV degradation in your red txt.


I guess you'll have to the contact the manufacturer. The hoses for my engines are run through rigging tubes.
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I keep hearing "gray hose" this and "gray hose" that -- I'm assuming (you know what they say) that this is not with reference to the gray hose sold at West Marine for fuel line? The stuff that's causing problems is cheaper stuff that comes with the Attwood kit?
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Originally Posted by cookbe View Post
I keep hearing "gray hose" this and "gray hose" that -- I'm assuming (you know what they say) that this is not with reference to the gray hose sold at West Marine for fuel line? The stuff that's causing problems is cheaper stuff that comes with the Attwood kit?
Can't say about the West hose as I haven't come across any.

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