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Old 12-27-2019, 02:14 PM
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Hi guys, learning as I go here.

I started a thread a while back about gel coating new non skid. I thought my cockpit was just non-skid but looks like it is PAINT. I donít know what type and there is very little chance i find out what brand or type or any of those helpful details....

How would you get this down to a surface that I can apply gelcoat over ? I donít think any amount of sanding will get me down to a clean glass/resin itís been painted a few times but actually seems to have good adhesion still.

thanks... Iíd prefer gelcoat but will paint (Awlgrip/Alex Seal) if needed
Old 12-29-2019, 11:47 PM
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To successfully apply gelcoat over existing unknown surface is pretty dicey.
If you cannot determine what is on it now, and verify its compatibility with gel, you’ll need to remove it all, or switch to a compatible paint.
You could try a small test patch in an inconspicuous location, but be sure to clean it well with acetone first.
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I, too, would be leery of it.
I'd be taking it down to bare glass. With the right tools, I bet you'd get through the paint faster than you think.
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Originally Posted by coores14 View Post
I, too, would be leery of it.
I'd be taking it down to bare glass. With the right tools, I bet you'd get through the paint faster than you think.
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I don't think there is any alternative other than stripping it down to bare glass. This would give you a clean pallet to work with. I would check to see what your your hull was made with. I was told you can put epoxy on boat resin which is PVA. But, you cannot put PVA on top of epoxy. Yacht paint normally has an epoxy base, and gel coat usually contains PVA. Something you should check into before doing any work.
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Bare glass or scuffed gel for gel coat...but I think paint gets a bad rap. Based on cost alone I worth try to to gelcoat topside again.
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OK - stripped to bare glass....

I do have a large area of non-skid that was painted over that needs attention too... I am wondering if I can get away with just priming and painting that again, taking that down to glass would be a huge job.
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Originally Posted by sammythetuna View Post
OK - stripped to bare glass....

I do have a large area of non-skid that was painted over that needs attention too... I am wondering if I can get away with just priming and painting that again, taking that down to glass would be a huge job.
as long as the paint is adhered well, then a light sanding to give it some tooth should be sufficient for a repaint.
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Following this thread. Thanks
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There wonít be many updates haha, we brought it down to bare glass and gonna do it right way and just gelcoat.

I may do the nonskid eventually but not likely to do it this winter
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Originally Posted by sammythetuna View Post
There wonít be many updates haha, we brought it down to bare glass and gonna do it right way and just gelcoat.

I may do the nonskid eventually but not likely to do it this winter
Finally seen the day of light and came to your senses eh?

Prior to gel coating mask off all necessary areas, wipe down with acetone, add nonskid to the gel coat and roll out.

1st coat, do not add wax or surface sealer curing agents.
For curing additive and a rock hard glossy finish, I like using Orca Air Dry Super Clear Coating/Additive.
There's other comparable stuff like this on the market, just what's locally available and is worth the coin.
Use new roller nap for each application.

2nd or last coat, add surface sealing curing agent. Roll out, clean up, de-mask, let cure., go fishing.
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Originally Posted by Riptied View Post
For curing additive and a rock hard glossy finish, I like using Orca Air Dry Super Clear Coating/Additive.
There's other comparable stuff like this on the market, just what's locally available and is worth the coin.
Use new roller nap for each application.
Duratec would be another of the more common products like you mention.
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Originally Posted by coores14 View Post
Duratec would be another of the more common products like you mention.
we are going to spray gelcoat with duratec
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Originally Posted by Riptied View Post
Finally seen the day of light and came to your senses eh?

Prior to gel coating mask off all necessary areas, wipe down with acetone, add nonskid to the gel coat and roll out.

1st coat, do not add wax or surface sealer curing agents.
For curing additive and a rock hard glossy finish, I like using Orca Air Dry Super Clear Coating/Additive.
There's other comparable stuff like this on the market, just what's locally available and is worth the coin.
Use new roller nap for each application.

2nd or last coat, add surface sealing curing agent. Roll out, clean up, de-mask, let cure., go fishing.

to be fair the old paint (once sanded) was very well adhered to glass and faired

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