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Old 04-04-2019, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dcdisco View Post
So what's stopping someone from taking $5,000,000 and cornering the market on the next 500 Freeman build slots?
Thankfully...Freeman.
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Old 04-04-2019, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by txyachtguy View Post
We are the Texas dealer for Invincible. Build a Freeman 42 (same size boat as 40 INV), with the same options, same electronics, same huge JL audio package, ship it to TX, and it is virtually the same price. And, it is the same price (minus freight to TX) as buying it factory direct from INV.

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Thanks for the clarification but I assume you are saying everyone gets the same MSRP in regards to factory direct vs factory purchase price. Negotiating the deal prices may vary.
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Old 04-04-2019, 04:55 AM
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This post itself means run for the hills. The boat market is about to crash!
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Old 04-08-2019, 04:55 AM
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Freeman Boatworks has received over 50 deposits from the Fort Lauderdale and Miami International Boat Shows!


These folks understand that if you are a person who is going to have a larger fast center console fishing boat and you have the financial means, it makes sense to buy a boat that has a superior ride and appearance and performance AND a resale value which at this time is significantly above the purchase price. It simply makes financial sense to these folks.


My neighbor has been searching for a Freeman 42. There is a very limited supply on the market. Only one that he could find. He even flew to Mexico to look at that one with his service technician. That particular boat was not in the condition that would make him purchase such a boat. Therefore, he told me he is placing a deposit on a Freeman 42 this week. Again limited supply, and great demand is creating this unusual opportunity.
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Originally Posted by Kendall View Post
Freeman Boatworks has received over 50 deposits from the Fort Lauderdale and Miami International Boat Shows!


These folks understand that if you are a person who is going to have a larger fast center console fishing boat and you have the financial means, it makes sense to buy a boat that has a superior ride and appearance and performance AND a resale value which at this time is significantly above the purchase price. It simply makes financial sense to these folks.


My neighbor has been searching for a Freeman 42. There is a very limited supply on the market. Only one that he could find. He even flew to Mexico to look at that one with his service technician. That particular boat was not in the condition that would make him purchase such a boat. Therefore, he told me he is placing a deposit on a Freeman 42 this week. Again limited supply, and great demand is creating this unusual opportunity.
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Old 04-08-2019, 06:02 AM
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Couple of questions for ya

How many boat does FM deliver a year? 10 20 30?

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Old 04-08-2019, 06:39 AM
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If it is such an amazing investment, why are you telling everyone about it? Seems to me the best route would be to scoop all of them up and make a ton of money by yourself, no? The fanboys for certain brands are ridiculous. IDK you OP, hell you may own one or six for that matter, but for every dude that runs one there's 100 that have never stepped foot on, let alone freaking seen one in person that are singing their praise. It's a catamaran, not a magic carpet. Freeman, the Yellowfin of today. Wonder who will be next?

Freeman makes a great boat, but to act like there isn't a premium being paid for the name and exclusivity, you are crazy.
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Originally Posted by BSpot View Post

How many boat does FM deliver a year? 10 20 30?

Between 70 and 100 boats per year.
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Originally Posted by Kendall View Post
Between 70 and 100 boats per year.
NO WAY. Real world number, pls.

I heard +- 25-30.
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Old 04-08-2019, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Kendall View Post
Between 70 and 100 boats per year.
Sorry, I am calling BS on that one.
70 is 5.8 boats a month.
100 is 8.3 boats a month. 2 boats a week.
Na, nope, not now.
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Old 04-08-2019, 03:07 PM
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6-7 boats a month was last year...I would think it’s a little more now, but I don’t know for sure. My Mibs boat moved along a lot faster compared to last build.
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Originally Posted by BSpot View Post
NO WAY. Real world number, pls.

I heard +- 25-30.
If you are going to post that, why don't you post your source - assuming your source is reliable?

The OP owns one, so his numbers would be more believable, no?

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Sorry, I am calling BS on that one.
70 is 5.8 boats a month.
100 is 8.3 boats a month. 2 boats a week.
Na, nope, not now.
If it was 70, it would be more along the lines of what Rod said + don't forget Freeman now has a big new/additional building.

Plus, who is it important too other than the bashers like BSpot and a few others?
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Originally Posted by First Light View Post
If you are going to post that, why don't you post your source - assuming your source is reliable?

The OP owns one, so his numbers would be more believable, no?



If it was 70, it would be more along the lines of what Rod said + don't forget he has a big new building.

Plus, who is it important too other than the bashers like BSpot and a few others?
Of which everyone says is underutilized.
Just because you have the room, doesn't mean you have the capabilities.
Work force?
Molds?
How many boats can come out of one mold a month?
How many models? 2? 37 and 42?
The math doesn't support it, only the coolaid drinkers support those numbers.
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^ You if anyone should know that with the economy we have now, the boating industry today is crazy busy, with many manufacturers running 2 shifts - some even 3 trying to keep up with demand. CNC machines can cut molds overnight, and the more popular boat companies have 2 and 3 shifts popping hulls out of molds - then all you need are more employees to put the boat together and rig. My "guess" is that Freeman has 3 shifts, with the 3rd shift being smaller and working on molds.
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Originally Posted by First Light View Post
^ You if anyone should know that with the economy we have now, the boating industry today is crazy busy, with many manufacturers running 2 shifts - some even 3 trying to keep up with demand. CNC machines can cut molds overnight, and the more popular boat companies have 2 and 3 shifts popping hulls out of molds - then all you need are more employees to put the boat together and rig. My "guess" is that Freeman has 3 shifts, with the 3rd shift being smaller and working on molds.
Yup.
And Mercury isn't doing it.
Niether is Intrepid, or Contender, or Invincible.
There just are not enough people let along qualified people, especially in SC.
CNC can cut molds, sure, but, that cost MONEY, and you can only pop so many (good) hulls out of a mold in a given time.
Hey, more power to them, but, it's a big number of boats that takes more than 60 people to make, more like 250.
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[QUOTE=First Light;12415319]If you are going to post that, why don't you post your source - assuming your source is reliable? If you look at the "build" threads on here the time line is staring at you. One 37 was in the mold 3 weeks. So, unless FM has doubles of each mold, they can do 17/year of that model.

The OP owns one, so his numbers would be more believable, no? no


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Well here is the next raindrop in the mud pit why are some buyers putting all that mo say in the hull but not their engines. There is a sick 37 with 7 marine if I gonna drop a chunk of change I would go 7 marine all the way. Massive hp and weight works out lighter than two 300 except merc but then again mercury is too much plastic in their engines imo
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Old 04-08-2019, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Blazer7420 View Post
Sorry, I am calling BS on that one.
70 is 5.8 boats a month.
100 is 8.3 boats a month. 2 boats a week.
Na, nope, not now.


wtf cares how many boats they build? Why are you guys even arguing about this? If they make less than what kendall says, great! If they make more, great!
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Old 04-08-2019, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by linesider 159 View Post
To me, a 3 year backlog would indicate the price is too low. I would think raising the price to get a 1 year backlog would be more efficient, but there is a reason he is a successful boat builder and im not.
Invc has a 1 yr wait or less for their cats. They have boats in stock at almost every dealership. They aren't flying off the shelves.
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