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Old 03-25-2019, 01:45 PM
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Why is it okay for the OP to drive 1.5 hours but not IM? Why is it the OP's fault he missed looking at the crooked panel but not the professional that installed it?

Sorry but I totally agree with Brian. If that was my boat I would want IM to come to me and straiten that panel. There's no excuse why a large panel such as that gets installed crooked by a professional. They screwed the pooch and they should fix it all on their dime and time. Do the right thing and put a guy in a car with some tools and fix that rediculously crooked panel that should have been installed right to begin with.

If you can't put a panel in square, you certainly wouldn't be touching anything else on my boat.
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Old 03-25-2019, 01:46 PM
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This right here is exactly why I prefer to do every single thing through e-mail.

I know that many of you LOVE that face to face meeting, or the feeling of talking to a "real person", but it's pretty short sighted.


To add, why do people think that they can negotiate every damn thing under the Sun? It's a business, get a quote and don't like it, move on to the next.
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Old 03-25-2019, 01:46 PM
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Of course I did in exchange for promotion on our page
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Old 03-25-2019, 01:48 PM
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Believe everything from one side of story? Never asked for discount for cash deal, simple said can I avoid taxes for cash deal... like most people offer.
Hi, that's illegal.


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Old 03-25-2019, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JonisMist View Post
Why is it okay for the OP to drive 1.5 hours but not IM? Why is it the OP's fault he missed looking at the crooked panel but not the professional that installed it?

Sorry but I totally agree with Brian. If that was my boat I would want IM to come to me and straiten that panel. There's no excuse why a large panel such as that gets installed crooked by a professional. They screwed the pooch and they should fix it all on their dime and time. Do the right thing and put a guy in a car with some tools and fix that rediculously crooked panel that should have been installed right to begin with.

If you can't put a panel in square, you certainly wouldn't be touching anything else on my boat.
Everyone outside of this page seems to agree as well. a lot of people on here looking past the main facts and going after small things they can post on for some laughs.
I said this they said this. But facts are they installed a crooked panel and lost my ignition keys and could not get me new ones for 3 weeks. They back pedaled on their word to come to my house to fix issue.
Just doesnt seem like a company to do business with.

This got very out of hand.
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Old 03-25-2019, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Vantaredoc View Post
This one gets me every time! Like I'm supposed to give some big discount because cash?? My overhead does not go down because you want to pay cash! Sure I can build stacks of cash, but have you tried to spend stacks of cash lately? I'm thinking about charging a surtax on cash! After my last sales tax audit, EVERYTHING is accounted for!!
A surtax on cash? I like the way you think!!!

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allright.... you have a page dedicated to boating lifestyle, promotions, etc but had no clue that a recessed panel would reduce the amount of friction from contact vs a flush mount panel mounted right at your freaking knees? Are you serious bro? C'mon. Quit whining. You effed up. He "soft sold" you into taking a flush panel vs recessed? Really? And then, you misinterpreted him saying "call us when your boat gets back to your house" likely meaning that IM wanted you to call them when it returned so they can set an appointment for you to bring it in. Instead, you translated that into somehow meaning that IM was gonna come to your house and fix it. Lastly, you said you had 6 hours to view it when you took it and didn't notice a thing until weeks later? Holy shit man bless your heart. You can't really be that clueless. This sounds much more like hurt feelings that IM didn't want your page referral and now you're trying to see what power you can wield with your followers. Get serious man.

No, the professional boat shop he took the boat to NEVER should of suggested that layout, the fact it is crooked is pathetic coming from any professional shop.



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Dude just hook up the boat and drive it down there. IM has offered to fix the issues at no cost to you even AFTER you came on here whining about problems that WEREN'T even problems when you picked up the boat.

At the end of the day he is welcome to come here and we will make any adjustments needed to make sure he is good to go. To be honest i am not even sure that it is crooked at this point. Crooked to some may be straight to others. Is it in line with the floor/ Level on the boat? sides? All of these may be off in the boat. In the end it does not matter to me. We want him Happy and we will put a tech on it any day of his choice to include Saturday and Sunday.

I don't like how it was handled and it just does not add up:.

He stated the thread at 7:00 am or so this morning. He called my office at 10:00 am and that is when we told him to bring the boat up this way because if we needed to make a cut or put something on the machine we don't have a portable laser or CNC. He also added to this complaint about the steering wheel knob and we felt uneasy about the entire situation.

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Hi, that's illegal.
I wonder if I paid taxes...
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This right here is exactly why I prefer to do every single thing through e-mail.

I know that many of you LOVE that face to face meeting, or the feeling of talking to a "real person", but it's pretty short sighted.


To add, why do people think that they can negotiate every damn thing under the Sun? It's a business, get a quote and don't like it, move on to the next.
Because they can, almost everything is negotiable. Your statement is naive.
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Old 03-25-2019, 01:54 PM
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Believe everything from one side of story? Never asked for discount for cash deal, simple said can I avoid taxes for cash deal... like most people offer.
LOL so you were proposing something illegal
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[QUOTE=Trayder;12370003]



No, the professional boat shop he took the boat to NEVER should of suggested that layout, the fact it is crooked is pathetic coming from any professional shop.



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No, the professional boat shop he took the boat to NEVER should of suggested that layout, the fact it is crooked is pathetic coming from any professional shop.




1. We don't suggest a layout. We go over with the customer the pros and cons. Every single customer wants it different and there is no standard unfortunately. Many Contenders owners are doing exactly what he has done rather than repairing the tray.

2. I would like to see if it is actually not straight and the reference used to determine that. Either way we will do what he wants but as you are well aware some of these boats the floor is not straight, the consoles are not square or straight, and the dash is not straight.

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Old 03-25-2019, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian6892 View Post
simple said can I avoid taxes for cash deal... like most people offer.
Never once heard this before. So you ask the company to commit a federal crime, they say no, and then you bring this to attention on the internet?

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This got very out of hand.
Well, I mean, you did start this thread... I think if these were all in your favor you'd be quite happy with the thread. They are not.
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Because they can, almost everything is negotiable. Your statement is naive.
i do agree that pretty much everything in life is negotiable

but you do NOT negotiate something AFTER there has been a meeting of the minds and deal struck / work done / about to be picked up

that is just in bad taste

to be honest, OP might want to consider getting out of boating. boating is expensive and nickel and diming and boating don't go together.
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Old 03-25-2019, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jgatorman View Post
Because they can, almost everything is negotiable. Your statement is naive.

I'll take a quarter pounder with cheese....and let's make this happen for $2.09 instead of $2.49.

Going to Amazon dot com....Ummmmm I saw you have this trinket for $54.....will you take $49 since I'm paying cash?

Answer me this, why would any upstanding business give you a break for paying cash, unless the alternative is only credit card? I won't.
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I tried asking the guy at the gas station and Publix if they would give me a discount if paying cash,they both said no.

Having said that,I only except cash for services,checks and CC no way.
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No-one is saying that IM is not responsible in some way... I think the point of the story here is...

well, a couple points...

1 - If you own an expensive boat, stop nitpicking every nickle to save some chump change...."can I get a discount here? what about here? how about here?" Get a solid price. Get competing quotes, make a call and pay the dang bill.

2 - You do not go in for a spleen removal and then when you find out, after getting home, that there is a sponge left in and ask the doctor to come to the house and "fix it". Take it where they are, make them fix it, ask for a hat or something for the time and money it cost you to bring it back to them to fix their mistake.. by all means, make sure they have some skin in the game.. but asking them to come to your house to fix it is just childish. You own an expensive hole in the wall....we can pretty much assume you do not work at Taco Bell serving burritos (no offence to you Taco Bell people.. I love your food...).. so take some time off, or arrange to take it on a weekend or day you are already off and drop it off with them.. and get it fixed.

3 - Lastly.... going on and on about this when you have a solution....maybe not the best.. maybe not exactly what you want, with other adults listening and saying, "ok.. I hear ya... you had / have a legitimate issue..."... you do not get into a spat.. you say, "IM... I am not happy with the results. How can we make this right? Can I drop it off with you on a day I am not working? Can you do something to change what I think about this every time I look at it? Hiow do we make it so I do not just 'take it in and fix it' but I change how I think about it when I see it. so we both win?" that is how adults act.

And.. get it fixed.. then post pictures of you and your non-crooked boat panel on the water, sipping a drink, with a fish on a hook and a babe on your knee.

All is forgiven and you make more friends.

Seems a no-brainer to me.. I like fish.. I like babes.. I remember when they liked me... was a dream, but I am okay with that too...at least they were not crooked.. just sayin...

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I tried asking the guy at the gas station and Publix if they would give me a discount if paying cash,they both said no.

Having said that,I only except cash for services,checks and CC no way.
most gas stations i have been to do have a cash price so i dont know what point you are trying/failing to make??
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I tried asking the guy at the gas station and Publix if they would give me a discount if paying cash,they both said no.

Having said that,I only except cash for services,checks and CC no way.
My business is totally opposite. Most of my jobs range from 50k-over 600k for complete remodels. I only accept checks and wires. CC fees are brutal on those amounts and I don't need a Wells Fargo truck driving in to pay the bill!
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