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Old 03-22-2019, 11:42 PM
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let me get this out of the way so the Freeman mafia doesnít take me out to the back ally and puble me. I have never been on either boats and probably never will, it starts getting chilly at the end of September. So not many Can justify buying 500k+ CC, (Iím completely impartial) But I am curious. The other thread with Invincible had me thinking what happend to Nor Tech? Iíve creeped long enough to remember Propbender and his 100 MPH Nor Tech and most everyone agreed it rode better than a Yellowfin,Contender ect.
How does it stack up against Freeman performance wise? It was my understanding at one time it was the most bad ass wave cutting machine you could get your paws on.
Iím awear that Freeman is a WAY better fishing boat in everyway. Itís wider,holds almost 2x the fuel,better laid out ect. Iím just wondering how the 37 stacks up against the 392 In all around performance?
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Old 03-23-2019, 05:26 AM
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let me get this out of the way so the Freeman mafia doesnít take me out to the back ally and puble me. I have never been on either boats and probably never will, it starts getting chilly at the end of September. So not many Can justify buying 500k+ CC, (Iím completely impartial) But I am curious. The other thread with Invincible had me thinking what happend to Nor Tech? Iíve creeped long enough to remember Propbender and his 100 MPH Nor Tech and most everyone agreed it rode better than a Yellowfin,Contender ect.
How does it stack up against Freeman performance wise? It was my understanding at one time it was the most bad ass wave cutting machine you could get your paws on.
Iím awear that Freeman is a WAY better fishing boat in everyway. Itís wider,holds almost 2x the fuel,better laid out ect. Iím just wondering how the 37 stacks up against the 392 In all around performance?
Nothing happened to Nor Tech. They are building boats in their new facility and have expanded their product line to include the 45 and 55 CCs in both sport version and fishing platforms. Not Tech targets two distinct buyers in the market with very different needs in their boats beyond speed and ride.

Nor Tech is faster. Trond (owner) knows speed. It is what he has been doing since the 80s. But Billy doesnít want to try and out run a Nor Tech, itís not what his customers are asking for. They want speed, but not at a sacrifice to fishability and ride. So Freeman delivers a great blend of both.

The 392 is a bit heavier than the 390 because it is a 3 piece boat, the 390 is a 2 piece. So the 392 holds the water a bit better in rough seas than the 390 but that comes at a sacrifice in top end and cruise speeds and efficiency.

Comparing the Freeman and NT is truly an apples and oranges comparison. A buyer is not likely cross shopping both brands. They are looking at the monoís in the market or the cats (now that there is enough supply to somewhat meet the demand), and if they are cross shopping both hull types the NT 392 is not as likely to be part of the mix. It is a bit narrow for a 39.
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:36 AM
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let me get this out of the way so the Freeman mafia doesn’t take me out to the back ally and puble me. I have never been on either boats and probably never will, it starts getting chilly at the end of September. So not many Can justify buying 500k+ CC, (I’m completely impartial) But I am curious. The other thread with Invincible had me thinking what happend to Nor Tech? I’ve creeped long enough to remember Propbender and his 100 MPH Nor Tech and most everyone agreed it rode better than a Yellowfin,Contender ect.
How does it stack up against Freeman performance wise? It was my understanding at one time it was the most bad ass wave cutting machine you could get your paws on.
I’m awear that Freeman is a WAY better fishing boat in everyway. It’s wider,holds almost 2x the fuel,better laid out ect. I’m just wondering how the 37 stacks up against the 392 In all around performance?

As eluded to above, your question is similar to someone asking how a Chevrolet Malibu compares to a Ford F150 - they both do the same thing, but differently. Or how a 26 Pathfinder compares to a 27 Ameracat - they too will do the same thing, but differently.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:03 AM
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Nortech is much narrower, probably much more expensive...beautiful boat
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Originally Posted by First Light View Post
As eluded to above, your question is similar to someone asking how a Chevrolet Malibu compares to a Ford F150 - they both do the same thing, but differently. Or how a 26 Pathfinder compares to a 27 Ameracat - they too will do the same thing, but differently.
Malibu to F150 isn't really fair...

F350 to Raptor may be a bit more apropos
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What the hell is puble?
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Sorry couldn't resist............MY BAD

Boatsareawesom is totally correct. Nils and Trond built the 390 really as a sandbar boat that you could also fish. The 390 can be ordered with a fishing package includes a live well etc.
The 392 is built much more heavy- hull weighs 2000 lbs more with heavier lay up and eqpt. And you can get a tower. A 392 with quad 400's is bout 4 mph slower or more than a 390. I would think a boat that can cruise at 75-80 is pretty attractive.
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Iíve never seen anyone truly compare the two boats in speed. Propbender himself said the 39 superfish with quad 400rís does mid upper 80s with rev 4s or low 90s with ďtop speedĒ props. Has anyone ever put sportsmaster lower units on a quad 400R 37 Freeman? The 400Rs with HD lower units on the Freeman hits 84mph. With sportsmasters I bet it would be right there with the Nortech. The craziest part is you can even compare these boats in speed considering the size differences. If you put them side by side it looks like the Nortech could fit inside the 37 Freeman.
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Old 03-26-2019, 12:44 PM
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The 392 can be had with a berth underneath that can be air conditioned. The fit and finish on the Nortech is, IMO, as good as you will find on any center console...and better than the Freeman by any measure. The OP asks an interesting question though and one similar to that I asked in another thread today. When the chips are down does the Nortech keep up with or compare to the Freeman in the slop? I don't know the answer to that question.
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The closest I can come is comparing approx 1,000 hrs offshore in the 392 to a couple hundred in the 40 invincible. Understand first the main characteristic of the Invincible that differentiates it from the Freeman is that it leans into the turn instead of flat or outboard and the freeman may be slightly softer if you can even measure that between the two so outside of that the performance is very close.

392 is fast and fun to drive like a Ferrari. It feels like it's on rails and unlike most large CC boats I have fished when you set the autopilot you don't have to constantly have your hand on the wheel to adjust to the wave direction in an effort to keep dry. It just does it's thing and does it well. Unbelievable fishbox space for a 39 foot boat and the livewell system is the best I've used. The downside is that it's very narrow and if you have someone strapped in to their harness next to the console it is tough to get past them. The level desk is awesome and you never have to worry about tripping or wet feet because every single below deck box has drains in the corners of the channels around the rim that immediately put water overboard above the waterline. They built in a PVC drain system that is absolutely genius if you like dry feet! Tuna tubes are standard which is nice and access to all of the electronics is good unless you need to remove something then it get's tough to get to screws in tight places behind the console. But when out in rough weather trying to troubleshoot an issue the access is fine. The CG on the 392 is so low that the boat sits great in a slow rolling sea or cross chop. Several times I had to look at a rig and see the size of the waves going by to remember it was a nasty day. The bow is low so you can gaff from anywhere around the boat with no issues, to me that a huge deal as I try to get fish as far from the motors as possible during tournaments.

So all that good stuff about the 392 surely it's the best thing out there? It was until I went to Miami and went for a ride on the 40 Invincible CAT (I will stick to the items that are the same across the board for big cats)
So the big Cats have four cockpits. You traditionally feel like the stern is the cockpit but these things have so much space around the console that it feels like there's a cockpit on both sides, the bow and the stern. The fishbox space is unparalleled by any mono hull CC. The stability in a small rolling sea or chop can't compare as you have two hulls spread out far enough that you create a really wonderful platform to fish from. Put 15 people on one side of the big CATS and they don't even lean over. I feel like the 392 was extremely dry but the large CATS are a little dryer and I feel like that's because the bow is spread so far out and you don't have the traditional nose to slap the water directly in front of you and have it splash back in your face. Storage Storage Storage, I really don't need to dig in to this one as anyone who has looked knows that storage in the big CATS is insane. You would think they are harder to maneuver in small spaces or chasing a fast moving big fish but it's the opposite and they may again be a result of the engines being spread so far out. They do not handle like they are on rails like the 392 but in a different way they are better than naything I have experienced on a rough day on any monohull. On a flat day you will forget you are on the water because it's just different and I have never felt like I just got my ass kicked, no matter what the weather was.

Fit an finish between a 392, Invincible and Freeman is a tough one because so many people have their own personal opinion but my order would be 1st Invincible 2nd Nor-Tech and 3rd Freeman
Creature comforts that's the difference maker- 392 - cabin with AC, double berth for napping and private head for the ladies or the kiddos. None of the CATS come close yet unless you look at the one off Margaritaville machine on order at the Merrit boat yard. Next for me is the invincible with the coffin seperate from the console and a few more from the factory options for seating. I am surprised none of them have done a walkaround with a raised helm yet........
Fishability - Tied between Freeman and Invincible and (this is very hard for me to say with the amount of time I've spent and love I have for the 392) the Nor-Tech last even though I would put it over 99.9% of the rest of the CC market (Mono hulls only).


That's my opinion only, I have a lot of time on two of the three and limited time on the third and have been boating for well over 30 years on anything I could physically get out on so take it with a grain of salt. We all have biases and I am no different but I do have a bit more knowledge than most on the 392 and the 40 Invincible in my opinion so feel free to PM if you have anything specific you need a picture of or more explanation.

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Old 03-27-2019, 09:23 AM
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Does nortech make a 392 superfish anymore?
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[QUOTE=ashcreek;12373782]The closest I can come is comparing approx 1,000 hrs offshore in the 392 to a couple hundred in the 40 invincible. Understand first the main characteristic of the Invincible that differentiates it from the Freeman is that it leans into the turn instead of flat or outboard and the freeman may be slightly softer if you can even measure that between the two so outside of that the performance is very close.

392 is fast and fun to drive like a Ferrari. It feels like it's on rails and unlike most large CC boats I have fished when you set the autopilot you don't have to constantly have your hand on the wheel to adjust to the wave direction in an effort to keep dry. It just does it's thing and does it well. Unbelievable fishbox space for a 39 foot boat and the livewell system is the best I've used. The downside is that it's very narrow and if you have someone strapped in to their harness next to the console it is tough to get past them. The level desk is awesome and you never have to worry about tripping or wet feet because every single below deck box has drains in the corners of the channels around the rim that immediately put water overboard above the waterline. They built in a PVC drain system that is absolutely genius if you like dry feet! Tuna tubes are standard which is nice and access to all of the electronics is good unless you need to remove something then it get's tough to get to screws in tight places behind the console. But when out in rough weather trying to troubleshoot an issue the access is fine. The CG on the 392 is so low that the boat sits great in a slow rolling sea or cross chop. Several times I had to look at a rig and see the size of the waves going by to remember it was a nasty day. The bow is low so you can gaff from anywhere around the boat with no issues, to me that a huge deal as I try to get fish as far from the motors as possible during tournaments.

So all that good stuff about the 392 surely it's the best thing out there? It was until I went to Miami and went for a ride on the 40 Invincible CAT (I will stick to the items that are the same across the board for big cats)
So the big Cats have four cockpits. You traditionally feel like the stern is the cockpit but these things have so much space around the console that it feels like there's a cockpit on both sides, the bow and the stern. The fishbox space is unparalleled by any mono hull CC. The stability in a small rolling sea or chop can't compare as you have two hulls spread out far enough that you create a really wonderful platform to fish from. Put 15 people on one side of the big CATS and they don't even lean over. I feel like the 392 was extremely dry but the large CATS are a little dryer and I feel like that's because the bow is spread so far out and you don't have the traditional nose to slap the water directly in front of you and have it splash back in your face. Storage Storage Storage, I really don't need to dig in to this one as anyone who has looked knows that storage in the big CATS is insane. You would think they are harder to maneuver in small spaces or chasing a fast moving big fish but it's the opposite and they may again be a result of the engines being spread so far out. They do not handle like they are on rails like the 392 but in a different way they are better than naything I have experienced on a rough day on any monohull. On a flat day you will forget you are on the water because it's just different and I have never felt like I just got my ass kicked, no matter what the weather was.

Fit an finish between a 392, Invincible and Freeman is a tough one because so many people have their own personal opinion but my order would be 1st Invincible 2nd Nor-Tech and 3rd Freeman
Creature comforts that's the difference maker- 392 - cabin with AC, double berth for napping and private head for the ladies or the kiddos. None of the CATS come close yet unless you look at the one off Margaritaville machine on order at the Merrit boat yard. Next for me is the invincible with the coffin seperate from the console and a few more from the factory options for seating. I am surprised none of them have done a walkaround with a raised helm yet........
Fishability - Tied between Freeman and Invincible and (this is very hard for me to say with the amount of time I've spent and love I have for the 392) the Nor-Tech last even though I would put it over 99.9% of the rest of the CC market (Mono hulls only).


That's my opinion only, I have a lot of time on two of the three and limited time on the third and have been boating for well over 30 years on anything I could physically get out on so take it with a grain of salt. We all have biases and I am no different but I do have a bit more knowledge than most on the 392 and the 40 Invincible in my opinion so feel free to PM if you have anything specific you need a picture of or more explanation.[/QUOT

Part of the issues with Nor-Tech in my opinion is the beam. They are pretty narrow
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Does nortech make a 392 superfish anymore?
Yes. My buddy ordered one last month. December is delivery date.
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They are still making them. They are built at the factory in Naples and then sent up to Jacksonville to First Coast Nor-Tech and rigged up there with a team that just handles the 392.

I agree with the narrow comment to an extent, but that is a part of why they run so well in such horrible seas. Anyone who has run a 390 just imagine that same boat with a little more weight and a 3 piece construction instead of two and that's the big difference. That platform will always have a special place in my heart.
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I have a 392 SF in build now for delivery in about 6 weeks. Yes, it's a much smaller and less beamy boat than the 40+ boats it's often compared to in these THT threads, but that's a feature not a bug for some of us who aren't looking to run something as large as the 40-42' LOA 11-12' beam 18K lbs boats. Also, while the beam is 10', it carries that beam all the way to the waterline unlike the boats with a lot more flare, so it's not actually much narrower at all at the deck level. For what I do, the 392 is the perfect size.
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The Nor Tec is a beautiful boat and of course the freeman is a beast. Not sure what I would pick between them two, Definitely a great problem to have.
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As said, two totally different beasts.
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Mine has a AC / heat berth that sleeps 3 and is used on every trip. Plus my helm has Benz vents on the dash! Everyone else has those cheap looking vents..
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For the sandbar I have stand up coolers that dance - 8 6x9’s 4 12”’s 2 10”’s and 4 6.5’s.
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Brian your 42 is absolutely sickening and I mean that in the best of ways lol... itís beast mode personified
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