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Old 03-20-2019, 07:56 AM
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Im looking at a 1999 Cobalt 190 with 360 hours and is in MINT condition. My only concern is the age and hours on the boat. Would I be better off buying a newer boat with less or equal hours? Ive been told Cobalt is one of the "higher end" boats with a quality build. Any advice would be helpful.
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:03 AM
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No, it's very few. It's actually not enough for a 20 year old boat, that would be my greater concern.
I've never heard that about Cobalt boats. lol
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Cobalt is the top of the line in my opinion. Very well made highly regarded line. When I was running my bow-riders, Cobalt was the considered to be the best in fit and finish, quality of the build, etc. As was mentioned, that is extremely low hours on a 20 hour boat. But if it was fresh water kept, and you have the ability to have it checked out by a mechanic, go for it. Things may have dry rotted, when it comes to hoses/bellows, etc. but that would not stop me from considering buying.
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Cobalts tend to be well made but it's still 20 years old so who knows how well it's been taken care of. I have several boats and average about 20-25 hours per year on one of them. That is considered very low. This one averages 18 hours/year which is really LOW.

20 years of perfect service or 20 years of neglect....only you can decide (or pay someone to figure that out for you). I assume a Merc engine like a 4.3 or 5.0. They'll last a very long time if taken care of.
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:35 AM
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360 hours per year is a lot. Get a full mechanical survey on the power plant.
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360 hours per year is a lot. Get a full mechanical survey on the power plant.

Would rather buy a boat with 360 hrs a year rather than a 20 year old boat that 360 hrs total....
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:07 AM
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such low hours on a boat is a red flag... boats do not like to sit and be ignored. When they do bad stuff happens. If you are interested be sure to get a full survey done.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:11 AM
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Yea I tend to lean towards buying a boat that runs often since my experience with my own has been to use it a lot and just keep up maintenance.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:32 AM
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That seems really low. My dad's is a 2002 Cobalt 246 and it gets a lot of hours, but has full maintenance every year and that boat has been nearly flawless. For a lake boat, Cobalt is the best in fit and finish. If it really is in mint condition like you say and it has been maintained, even with the low hours, then I would think it could be a great boat.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wahoo wacker View Post
Would rather buy a boat with 360 hrs a year rather than a 20 year old boat that 360 hrs total....
I agree. For the recreational boater, these outboards will die of old age before they get worn out. A gasket or hose will dry out, a piece of metal will corrode. Often when these items deteriorate, they end up causing a catastrophic failure of the motor, or the repair is not cost effective.
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I'd be nervous buying a motor used that little. Boats don't like to be left sitting up.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:49 AM
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Presuming this is a freshwater boat, I would not worry about the hours. Have the motor checked out.

Lake boats used in the northern states generally get used much less than in other regions. Think about using a boat on a lake in the northeast. You get to the cabin maybe 6- 8 weekends a year. Run your lake boat around the lake a couple of hours a day. That motor will have the kind of hours that your are talking about in 20 years.

Doesn't sound so unreasonable now, does it?
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Originally Posted by cusefan82 View Post
Im looking at a 1999 Cobalt 190 with 360 hours and is in MINT condition. My only concern is the age and hours on the boat. Would I be better off buying a newer boat with less or equal hours? Ive been told Cobalt is one of the "higher end" boats with a quality build. Any advice would be helpful.
Low hours can be a bad thing

Thats 18/hours per year average

Where I boat its a short season and I think the average is 50-75 hours per year. 18 hours would have me questioning some things... like another poster said, if it was left at a vacation home that was visited sparingly, it may make sense.
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Originally Posted by CJSB View Post
360 hours per year is a lot. Get a full mechanical survey on the power plant.
failed.........read it again.
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Originally Posted by Toothpick 10 View Post
I agree. For the recreational boater, these outboards will die of old age before they get worn out. A gasket or hose will dry out, a piece of metal will corrode. Often when these items deteriorate, they end up causing a catastrophic failure of the motor, or the repair is not cost effective.
I'll bet $100 it's an I/O
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:26 AM
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I have not heard of a cobalt with outboards until the last few years. I am also guessing it is a Volvo Penta I/O like every other cobalt I have been on 1998 and up. (That is quite a few)
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Depends on the price if the selling use using low hours to mark up the price like a car with low mileage run. A two year old boat with 120-150 hours could make the case for a higher resale than one with 400-500 hours. Get a mechanic to look at it, wouldn’t nessesarily stop me from buying.
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Condition of storage is the concern. Was it sitting in the back yard with a ripped or collapsed cover covered with leaves and mold, or was it stored indoors and clean. There are many reasons why it may not have been used much, but still stored and maintained well.
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Old 03-20-2019, 11:04 AM
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It's a bit too low. I would guess it has been sitting on land for few years, hard to believe its a result of 18hrs yearly.
That being said, in Europe I see a lot of boats imported from US FL being 15...20 years old and advertized with say 147 hrs total...yeah right. Im being told the average hrs in FL might be anywhere around 200 hrs considering the climate and amount of sunny days. And then you look in the bilge of those "147hrs boats" and the enginesblocks are corroded and covered with burnt oil, wiring is cracked and brittle, risers are clogged with rust and the list goes on and on.
so 360 hrs...at least ask many many questions.
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Being a "cusefan" I assume he's in the Syracuse region.....certainly a shorter boating season which could explain the hours. I spend many hours on my boat in Virginia.......at the sandbar. It's a 2010 model I bought new and it's got 190 hours on it. If you didn't know one model from another you'd be hard pressed to tell it wasn't new (even under the cowling!)
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