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Old 03-19-2019, 07:28 AM
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Which is the best oil to us on this HPDI outboard. I read somewhere were Pennzoil (maybe be synthetic) was actually better for some reason. Something about it smoking less or something. I have been using Yamaha oil since I got the outboard 2 years ago. Just making sure is am doing what best for the motor.

Plus is there a ring free other than YAMAHA that works just as good. Yamaha RF cost $55 a bottle at the local shop. I have not been using ring free on my motor, should I?
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Originally Posted by acassidy View Post
Which is the best oil to us on this HPDI outboard. I read somewhere were Pennzoil (maybe be synthetic) was actually better for some reason. Something about it smoking less or something. I have been using Yamaha oil since I got the outboard 2 years ago. Just making sure is am doing what best for the motor.

Plus is there a ring free other than YAMAHA that works just as good. Yamaha RF cost $55 a bottle at the local shop. I have not been using ring free on my motor, should I?
Thanks a lot,
I was using Penzzoil when I had the same motor. Starbrite sells it's version of ring free. Use ethanol free gas.

Also, check on the mistery filters...
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I use only Yama lube and have never had an issue. 1100 hours and no problems. I like to is what the manufacturer recommends. I use ring free as well if you shop around online you can find it a lot cheaper. The Yama lube as well
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If you're using Yamalube oil then you most certainly need to use RingFree, I use Pennzoil and no RingFree..
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Pennzoil XLF and Yamaha Ring Free. Only use ethanol free gas. My Vmax OX66 loves it. Way less smoke than junk Yamalube. O2 sensor stays much cleaner also. Big help when trolling for hours.
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Originally Posted by eastcoastrigs View Post
I use only Yama lube and have never had an issue. 1100 hours and no problems. I like to is what the manufacturer recommends. I use ring free as well if you shop around online you can find it a lot cheaper. The Yama lube as well
The manufacturer likes that also.
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When I think of two stroke Yamalube I think of Gayguylube.

Both make my sphincter tighten.

Now some like either or both. To each their own. I shall not judge.
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Originally Posted by alloyboy View Post
When I think of two stroke Yamalube I think of Gayguylube.

Both make my sphincter tighten.

Now some like either or both. To each their own. I shall not judge.
now that is an odd post out of left field....I am sure no one will judge you either on THT...cuz that never happens.
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Originally Posted by Gnrphil View Post
If you're using Yamalube oil then you most certainly need to use RingFree, I use Pennzoil and no RingFree..
I have a 2004 Yamaha 300 HPDI with 945 h and no plug fouling issues after switching from Yamalube/ring free to Penzoil full synthetic. Even after oil rod linkage adjustment and oil pump recall, I always had dirty plugs with Yamalube. Not to the point of noticeable drop in performance but always had more deposits on the plugs than I thought they should. After switching to Full Synthetic early on, I have never had any issues, plug fouling or otherwise. Penzoil no longer makes 100% Synthetic so I switched to Amsoil HP Marine full synthetic a couple of years ago.
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If I had that motor, I would be much more concerned with fuel pressure. I would get a gauge and alarm and monitor that closely. Good motor, but if it gets lean.... no good.
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Originally Posted by alloyboy View Post
When I think of two stroke Yamalube I think of Gayguylube.

Both make my sphincter tighten.

Now some like either or both. To each their own. I shall not judge.
that’s a pretty relevant explanation. Thanks for wasting everyone’s time reading that. When a manufacturer suggests a certain product to keep the motor running at top performance I tend to follow thier advice. I have never had an issue using it and my plugs are always fine. Your entitled to your opinion although your additional input is useless.
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Pennzoil XLF and Yamaha Ring Free for me! Ring Free @ 1oz per 10gal is not as bad as it seems when you look at the cost of other additives.
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I dont have the HDPI, but I run Penzoil XLF and ring free in all of my 2 strokes, no matter the brand. I have never had and issue.
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I would run the Yamaha products. I had the exact same motors. Great motors when they are happy but very very sensitive. I did switch to the Pennzoil and less than a year later I blew a head. Not saying it was the Pennzoil that did it but in retrospect, despite the cost fo yamalube, I wish I hadnt just to rule it out.

I replaced vst's, mystery filters, low pressure pumps, and had injector service done (along w the other 20 fuel filters that go on those motors)

I saw no difference in smoke between the two products.
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Yamahalube 2m - $39/gallon on amazon; Penzoil XLF full synthetic - $17.76. Penzoil will run cleaner. No brainer...
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Originally Posted by Swift Buzzard View Post
Pennzoil XLF and Yamaha Ring Free for me! Ring Free @ 1oz per 10gal is not as bad as it seems when you look at the cost of other additives.
Could not agree more.
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Originally Posted by Gnrphil View Post
If you're using Yamalube oil then you most certainly need to use RingFree, I use Pennzoil and no RingFree..
Wrong.
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Wrong.
Care to explain, I have no issue being proven "wrong".
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Used Pennzoil Premium Plus until I couldn't get it any more and switched to West Marine DFI oil which seems very similar. The stuff smokes about half as much as Yamalube and I only run Stabil carbon treatment once or twice a year to keep up.
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BMW recommends you use their DEF fluid for their diesel cars. $12 for a half gallon. BlueDef at Walmart...bout $10 for 2.5 gallons. Same thing with most all TCW3 rated outboard oils. No difference...zero...except in the price...and a false sense of security in some folks minds.
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