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Old 03-18-2019, 06:09 PM
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Default Invincible 37 v Freeman 37VH

Well, the Invincible 37 has been around long enough to make a fair comparison. So, for the guys with experience on both, which is the better all around boat relative to efficiency, fishability, comfort, ride in the slop and WOT with comparable power?

My understanding is if both have the same power, the Freeman is more efficient and faster. The Invincible is a little more family friendly and has slightly better fit and finish.

Anyone with direct experience care to comment?
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Old 03-18-2019, 06:14 PM
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My direct experience with THT is there will be 10 posts telling you how great a Freeman is compared to any other boat under the sun.
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Old 03-18-2019, 06:15 PM
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My direct experience with THT is there will be 10 posts telling you how great a Freeman is compared to any other boat under the sun.
And 20 bashing Freeman and Freeman owners. You're already #1!
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Old 03-18-2019, 06:17 PM
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Damn you started it now.

Spent a a week on a new Freeman 34. I’ll keep my mouth shut since I haven’t been on a Invincible but I have to say that Freeman is sick.
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Old 03-18-2019, 06:43 PM
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Damn you started it now.

Spent a a week on a new Freeman 34. Iíll keep my mouth shut since I havenít been on a Invincible but I have to say that Freeman is sick.
No doubt, but when the chips are down, which is better?
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Old 03-18-2019, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by N2theblue View Post
And 20 bashing Freeman and Freeman owners. You're already #1!
I didnít bash Freeman or Freeman owners. My next large boat may well be a Freeman to replace my Intrepid. I made an observation about THT threads. Thanks for calling me #1. That made my day.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:15 PM
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This is really a apple to oranges question. Take out the manufacturer and I believe the discussion would be better served asking about a 37 cat vs 37 mono, pros and cons between each. This is certainly a scenario where you're going to need to see trial both boats and make the decision yourself. Both are top of the line in their own right.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hensleyfish View Post
This is really a apple to oranges question. Take out the manufacturer and I believe the discussion would be better served asking about a 37 cat vs 37 mono, pros and cons between each. This is certainly a scenario where you're going to need to see trial both boats and make the decision yourself. Both are top of the line in their own right.
They are also both Cats with one specifically designed to dip into the market share of the other.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gulf View Post
Well, the Invincible 37 has been around long enough to make a fair comparison. So, for the guys with experience on both, which is the better all around boat relative to efficiency, fishability, comfort, ride in the slop and WOT with comparable power?

My understanding is if both have the same power, the Freeman is more efficient and faster. The Invincible is a little more family friendly and has slightly better fit and finish.

Anyone with direct experience care to comment?
I do not feel the fit and finish of the Inv is any better. I tried to see a definite difference in these two and could not. In fact, with custom lebroc seats and other upholstery, I prefer the Freeman. I also can't see how the Inv is more family friendly.

With regard to performance, multiple people have reported Freeman numbers. I am not aware of the Inv numbers but I bet they are very close, if different at all. I have fished and sea trialed the Freeman many times and I don't have a practical complaint. I have been impressed many times at how they handle certain conditions. Nobody runs an Inv boat in the locales that I fish so cant say. I would like to tell you my sea trial experience with Inv but two years in a row, my wife and I have been ignored at MIBS by the Inv folks.

I don't own either one but I plan to this time next year.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:51 PM
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Have been thinking about a new boat and can't find any owner reviews of the 37 or 40 Invincibles. Only see company,dealer or boat mag reviews. Can someone direct me to owner reviews/reports similar to what we see with other manufacturers?
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Old 03-18-2019, 08:12 PM
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Grander Marine has a 40, I'm sure they'd take you out on it.
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Old 03-18-2019, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BLUE DOLPHIN View Post
Have been thinking about a new boat and can't find any owner reviews of the 37 or 40 Invincibles. Only see company,dealer or boat mag reviews. Can someone direct me to owner reviews/reports similar to what we see with other manufacturers?
Though it would be great to see more owner reviews of boats, I seldom see any in regard to ANY manufacturers, not just Invincibles. If you know of any such sources for owner reviews, please post them here. I for one appreciate information, even if owner reviews do tend to be a bit fanboy - or at least I hope they are - it's no fun to make a major purchase and regret it.
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Old 03-18-2019, 09:40 PM
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One design observation between the two models (which can be seen as a plus and minus from both sides) is that Invincible has a single level deck while Freeman has a stepped up area in the bow. Some people like the step while others think it presents a little bit of a dangerous situation. The coffin box on the Invincible is also detached from the console thus allowing you to walk around the boat without having to walk all the way up to the front. The Freeman's coffin box is connected to the helm and does not allow for easy walk through.

Another item to consider is build time... a lot of people do not have the time nor desire (for many reasons) to wait the 2+ years for a Freeman... To my knowledge, the performance figures for both boats are very comparable.

While I do not have much experience running either boat, I have spent considerable amounts of time on both boats at various boat shows (FLIBS, MIBS, etc.). They are very similar boats from great companies. The fit and finish is comparable but personally, I would give the edge to Invincible in this category. Personally, I fall under the category of people unwilling to wait that long for a Freeman, prefer the single level deck, and I prefer the seating/fishing options available on the Inv. But then again, I am also a mono-hull guy and my next boat would not be cat.

Get out there, ride a few in a variety of conditions and make the call for yourself.
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:48 AM
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I’ve worked on both brands, driven both and fished on both. Haven’t been on the 37’ Invincible yet, but have discussed in depth with some who have. It operates just like their 40, which I’ve spent countless hours on. Been on the F37 and F42. If you’re making the decision between the two, I’m jealous.

The Invincible would be my choice simply due to the fact it handles predictably like a monohull. Freeman handles like an overpowered Glacier Bay. I started my career rigging and racing high-performance cats and know how they’re supposed to operate and handle in everything from flat fresh water to ocean chop and swells. Cats should lean into a turn just like a monohull, not out. There’s a few other options I prefer like the flat deck and separate coffin box that Southern Fish mentioned on the Invincible. As far as rigging goes, or fit and finish, Invincible wins in that department. Their rigging follows manufacturer’s guidelines better. As a rigger and technician, this is very important to me. Fuel efficiency will match on both brands; .8-.9 loaded. Performance where it matters is equal. Freeman can stretch a few more MPH out on top end. If time is of the essence, Invincible will win that battle as well. A few are available at dealerships and their factory is quite efficient if you place a custom order.

Good luck in your decision. Visit each factory and take test rides.
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Old 03-19-2019, 05:40 AM
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Man I remember tht 10 yrs ago. Everyone was on the yellowfin train lol. Now times have changed just my opinion if I was looking at a 37ft cat hands down tideline 365. The 365 is the best looking cat imo tideline isn't a huge company but I believe they have a winner!
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:16 AM
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I am personally waiting for the Invincible 34 vs Freeman 34 comparison with twins. Especially once Mercury releases the higher hp motor. Add a Rhodan and that will be my perfect Gulf of Mexico rig.
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:05 AM
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I have spent many hours on Freemans and some hours on Invincible Cats. A decision of one over the other will not be wrong. Both boats are exceptional. I do find the finish on Inv. is a tad better, but in no way is the Freeman finish deficient. A major difference is the wait to own a boat. Freeman is still pushing 3 years and Inv. is approximately 12 months unless you buy a dealer's stock. A second major difference is the handling. I much prefer the way Inv. handles, much more like a mono as opposed to the Freeman. However, and again this is not a negative, just an observation and my personal preference.

I have stated before, if Inv. had a 34 Cat, I would have one.

Both boats are great and neither will disappoint.
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:52 AM
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hey david....does the invincible have ballast tanks or trim tabs? The ballast tanks on my 37vh make a huge difference, and the controls are right next to me for easy switch on/off while running.
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:25 AM
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hey david....does the invincible have ballast tanks or trim tabs? The ballast tanks on my 37vh make a huge difference, and the controls are right next to me for easy switch on/off while running.
Rod, do the ballast tanks affect fuel economy at all? It seems like that extra weight would be a negative, but I honestly have no clue, one way or the other. By the way, your new boat is beautiful. Congrats!
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I did see a video of the Invincible 37 with quad 300 V8 Mercury's was hitting 72 mph. Same boat with 350 Verados I heard was hitting about 76-78 or so. I really like the 37 Invincible. I will agree on fit and finish being slightly better on the Invincible, this is just from looking at them at the boat shows. But it is close. I'll give looks to the Freeman, but then again you can't see the boat when you are in it.

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