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Old 03-17-2019, 07:20 PM
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Back in 1979 my dad bought a Tiara Pursuit 2500 and it is a super fishy boat with incredible quality of construction. He still owns the boat to this day. Back in 2005 I ordered a 305 Offshore Pursuit and watched the boat as it was built even visiting the factory. Did a few custom things and really loved the boat. As kids started coming it got small quick. I soon had to leave the Tiara Pursuit family as they just were not fishy enough boats. Each year the shift from a fishing boat that can cruise continued to swing to a fishing boat that can fish. Many a thread has been posted on THT on this subject. Then surprisingly Tiara sold Pursuit to Malibu who had also recently purchased Cobalt. I figured that Tiara might then focus more on building both the great cruising boats they have always built but also add some more fishing focused boats to their line up. Went to their website and the 39 Convertible is gone as well as the 48 Convertible which were both really nice boats. Unfortunate they don't want to compete in this space.
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Old 03-17-2019, 09:15 PM
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42/43 Open are only 1 head and second stateroom is basically a shitty bunk bed design.

New Fly models still have same design as coupe inside of which I am not a big fan.

Unfortunately most of the classic Tiara design is missing in these new boats.

The Tiara series (new name for open) are still nice but donít deliver 2 stateroom/2 head layouts.



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Old 03-18-2019, 09:30 AM
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I have admired Tiara boats ever since I saw their open and flybridge models at the indoor Atlantic Boat show, sometime back, when that show had some fabulous boats on display. Anyway, they were great looking boats, but I had a Grady White at the time. I always admired the Pursuit line, but stayed with Grady White for a bit.

I always used my boats for cruising and fishing, so back in 2016 I sold a GW marlin and moved up to a 2002 Tiara 3800 Open. It really is a terrific platform for cruising and fishing. Fished Offshore and insure, and cruised South Jersey, Chesapeake Bay and now in Long island sound. The layout is great, rides really well and continues
to get comments.

So, based on changing lifestyle again, looked at hopefully one last move up. We were looking for another " stateroom" and 2nd head for the move up.
Looked hard at the 43 open, wanted to really like it, but as someone stated above, the 2nd berth is way too small, although I still like the raised helm bridge. Looked at the Coupe, could not fish it, and I am not keen on molded seats everywhere. My wife and I both wanted natural daylight down below as well since the Tiara had operating port windows in the cabin.

So, we choose the Riviera 445 based on the want list and still being able to fish coastal and occasional offshore. We will see if the choice made sense after using it for awhile. I know the Riviera will need to be tricked out a bit for the offshore fishing, but so would a Tiara. I have spoke to some folks who run the Tiara Coupe, and they love it. There is also the POD vs Shaft issue as well.

I bareboat chartered the Slikker's S2 sailboat in 1985 in the British Virgin Islands, and that was a really nice boat as well.
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Old 03-18-2019, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mjdap View Post
I have admired Tiara boats ever since I saw their open and flybridge models at the indoor Atlantic Boat show, sometime back, when that show had some fabulous boats on display. Anyway, they were great looking boats, but I had a Grady White at the time. I always admired the Pursuit line, but stayed with Grady White for a bit.

I always used my boats for cruising and fishing, so back in 2016 I sold a GW marlin and moved up to a 2002 Tiara 3800 Open. It really is a terrific platform for cruising and fishing. Fished Offshore and insure, and cruised South Jersey, Chesapeake Bay and now in Long island sound. The layout is great, rides really well and continues
to get comments.

So, based on changing lifestyle again, looked at hopefully one last move up. We were looking for another " stateroom" and 2nd head for the move up.
Looked hard at the 43 open, wanted to really like it, but as someone stated above, the 2nd berth is way too small, although I still like the raised helm bridge. Looked at the Coupe, could not fish it, and I am not keen on molded seats everywhere. My wife and I both wanted natural daylight down below as well since the Tiara had operating port windows in the cabin.

So, we choose the Riviera 445 based on the want list and still being able to fish coastal and occasional offshore. We will see if the choice made sense after using it for awhile. I know the Riviera will need to be tricked out a bit for the offshore fishing, but so would a Tiara. I have spoke to some folks who run the Tiara Coupe, and they love it. There is also the POD vs Shaft issue as well.

I bareboat chartered the Slikker's S2 sailboat in 1985 in the British Virgin Islands, and that was a really nice boat as well.
Congrats on the Riviera! My wife loves them as well. They seem to be more well thought out design-wise than the Tiara. It looks to me like Tiara actually copied them on the coupe, because they've been making the same model for a long time.
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Old 03-18-2019, 02:55 PM
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S2 was the company headed by Leon Slikkers and family that owned both Tiara and Pursuit until last year. In 2018, Malibu Boats bought Pursuit for $100 million. So Pursuat and Tiara are no longer part of the same family of boats. Tiara used to make terrific cruising/fishing boats but in recent years S2 moved Tiara more towards the cruising market only. That's even more the case in the new models, including the weirdo looking outboard model.
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Old 03-18-2019, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cobraowner View Post
Iíve been a Tiara owner for eight years now. I love my boat.... 2001 38 Open

that said, I canít seem to fully get myself to like the new ones.

For my my next boat, Iíd like to go to a 2 stateroom 2 head setup but in Tiara land that puts me into a Sovran or Coupe which I canít get behind yet.

Agreed, the new ones are generally odd. The 43 Open is pretty though.

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Old 03-18-2019, 03:59 PM
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The 31 Open is the most sought after Great Lakes fishing platform out there. They are a great fishing/cruiser. That being said the newer models seem to have drifted more toward cruising.

We were invited to the Holland plant this weekend to tour the facility and check out their 39 and 44 Coupes, and the Sport 34rs and 38rs (w outboards).
Should be interesting. I havenít been through the plant in a couple of years.

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Old 03-20-2019, 02:00 PM
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Old 03-20-2019, 04:56 PM
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Have to say I like the looks of an 06 a lot better then the new ones
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:14 PM
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Bro had the 40/41..not the fastest thing out there but is was a tank

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Old 03-20-2019, 07:30 PM
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​​​​​​Absolutely love my 35 Open, and everyone I know with a Tiara is also very pleased with theirs also.

The company has done a good job of maintaining the very successful Open line, now simply called the "Tiara", while moving in a very forward and current direction with their Sport Yacht and Coupe lines. They've partnered with Seven Marine, now Volvo Penta, to produce some cutting edge designs while staying true to the quality and reputation they've built over the years. Heck, what's not to like?!?
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:00 PM
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The brand definitely seems confused. They cannot decide which features should be sold by Tiara vs. Pursuit. It used to be Tiara featured the larger inboard model and Pursuit had the smaller outboard models. Some Tiaras now sport outboards. Neither brand is (or has ever been) hard-core fishing. They targeted family cruisers that also wanted the ability to fish

Obviously they are reacting to market pressure and models reflect what they think people want. I don't get some of the trends at all. For instance Dual Consoles are suddenly very popular - they make no sense to me

I like the new Sport models by Pursuit and will likely get one in the not too distant future
I think it is about your weather, how and how much you use the boat and what you are most used to. In the Northwest we can boat in at least 3 seasons if not 4 many years and I tried cc with 20' Outrage from Whaler. There was not as much room in the back of those boats (the console was pretty far back), the front was not useful for seating except on cooler and if the weather was not great there was no where to hide. I tried canvas but it was not the same. Replaced in 10 years ago with Grady 225 DC which has a small head to keep the wife happy, fishes, shimps or crabs 3 in inclement weather no problem and does a great job with tubes, wakeboards or skiers. I would consider Pursuit if I replaced Grady with a larger boat. In the salty, shoal waters of south Puget sound I prefer outboards. Most of the Tiarras you see here are 30-40 inboard cruising boats.

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Old 03-21-2019, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cobraowner View Post
42/43 Open are only 1 head and second stateroom is basically a shitty bunk bed design.

New Fly models still have same design as coupe inside of which I am not a big fan.

Unfortunately most of the classic Tiara design is missing in these new boats.

The Tiara series (new name for open) are still nice but donít deliver 2 stateroom/2 head layouts.



Yeah, no 2 head layouts on Tiaras, but I love the new 43 Openís cabin. Thatís the new boat I would buy, if I had a million I didnít know what to do with?
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Old 03-21-2019, 04:49 AM
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I always loved the lines of the Tiaras....I guess its the kinda/sorta old fashion classic style appearance that I like.
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Old 03-21-2019, 06:57 AM
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Even back in the day Tiara was never a fish first brand. Some guys outfitted them to be more hard core fishing boats but their place in the market was always cruise first while being able to fish. When S2 owned Pursuit those hulls were their fish first, cruise second boats and it showed in not only the hull designs but even the materials used. Tiara really filled the gap on boats smaller than Viking was making. Well built and high end interiors to sell the Wife... and still good enough to fish on. Viking is still in that space... anyone who thinks Viking is a fish first brand is missing their whole marketing plan. They sell the wife on the interior first and the husband on the fish-ability second.

We had a Pursuit 3250 for a while, was a Miami boat show boat... Fighting Lady Yellow hull, aqua boot, bottom, and canvas. Full tower, Cat diesels. Was a beautiful boat, well built, and fished great.
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Old 04-05-2019, 02:05 PM
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Rehashing a few week old thread here......but was told at the Miami Show that there was a 4 year non-compete on Tiara for outboard 'fishing' boats once they sold Pursuit to Malibu. So, maybe that's next for Tiara.

Love my Tiara 3200, though. Not sure what else I would buy that checks as many boxes for my family.
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Old 04-05-2019, 06:20 PM
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We like our open. Thatís seemed to always be their best models, but for some reason even the new 31 and 39 are shown as a cruiser. The 43 open seems to be the only fishing model left. Our next move up will be over 40 and we it will be Viking. I also agree that Viking has a top tier interior and has really stepped up comfort with the mezzanine seating. I just wish they would have built the 38 Open years ago.
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Old 07-02-2019, 10:41 AM
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Just saw this old thread. I have had a 3900 convertible since 2008 and am a big fan of the company and the boat. It rides great and fit and finish is superb. I have been disappointed in their move toward pure cruisers. They had a really nice niche in the "not quite hard-core fishing family market" - very nicely designed family boats that can be fished hard when needed. I guess the upsizing of outboard fishing boats kind of crowded out their open series, since the former can be sold at lower price points and "sort of" do the same thing as their inboard opens. I am hoping that the buyout doesn't compromise their customer service focus. They have always been great to work with.
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Old 07-21-2019, 05:59 PM
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Hi there
We are in the midst of purchasing a Tiara 2004 38 open - glad to hear you are happy with your boat. Any tips, advice or words of wisdom? This is our first foray into this type of boat- we have a Cobia 301 Center Console and a Boston Whaler Montauk 17.
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Old 07-21-2019, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cobraowner View Post
Iíve been a Tiara owner for eight years now. I love my boat.... 2001 38 Open

that said, I canít seem to fully get myself to like the new ones.

For my my next boat, Iíd like to go to a 2 stateroom 2 head setup but in Tiara land that puts me into a Sovran or Coupe which I canít get behind yet.

Glad to hear you are happy with your Tiara 38 open- we are in the midst of purchasing a 2004 38 open - any tips, advice or words of wisdom would be appreciated.
Thanks!!
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