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Old 03-16-2019, 04:51 AM
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Can't say enough about my old 06 150 Optimax. It's time for a new ride and, am I correct in thinking Evinrude HO is the only 2 stroke out there over 200 hp?
Just love 2 stroke I guess.
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Old 03-16-2019, 06:19 AM
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Yes, as well as the non-HO Evinrudes.
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Old 03-16-2019, 07:12 AM
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Test a new Four Stroke first.

The advantages have shrunk over the years to almost nothing. Actually I will argue that today’s high displacement four strokes beat two strokes in every area. It is a preference as all engines today are really good but be sure to try before you buy.
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The advantages have shrunk over the years to almost nothing. Actually I will argue that today’s high displacement four strokes beat two strokes in every area.
And I will argue against this, so there you go. Let the man have his two-stroke in peace.
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Agreed. Different strokes for different folks. I didn’t mean to turn this into something else. My advice is just to test options before you decide. If you have not run a new outboard in the past 2 or 3 years, they are very different.
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Old 03-16-2019, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
Can't say enough about my old 06 150 Optimax. It's time for a new ride and, am I correct in thinking Evinrude HO is the only 2 stroke out there over 200 hp?
Just love 2 stroke I guess.
I'm putting twin evinrude g2 300 2 strokes on my boat.
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Old 03-16-2019, 07:47 AM
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I'm putting twin evinrude g2 300 2 strokes on my boat.
Myself? I just can't wrap my head around the HO price thing. Can I get a G2 that is a non HO?
I'm working on a new purchase where the factory pre rigs for Evinrude. My boat dealer is Evinrude Platinum certified. The 225 hp keeps being brought up. However the CC is a mid size 21' 5" I'm sure a 200 2 stroke is enough for it. Keeping my purchase on, or even under budget is paramount. I'm not savvy I guess. I want that cool G2 look at the best price, like all G2 fans. Should I spring for an etech non HO, a 200 HO or 225 HO?
This is driving me crazy.
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Old 03-16-2019, 07:57 AM
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i have a 200HO Gen1 Etec on a Bluewater 2150 plenty of power.
when it comes time to Repower I will stick to the 2 stroke Etec . Maintenance cost alone are reason enough for me to go Etec over 4stroke.
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Old 03-16-2019, 07:58 AM
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The non-HO 200 G2 is a 2.7L model. The 200HO and higher HP models are 3.4L. I'm not an expert on Evinrude's offerings but I believe the 3.4L model comes with more standard features than the 2.7L (power/hydraulic steering?). Holeshot would be better with the 3.4L but holeshot with the 2.7L is already going to be very very good. So you certainly don't need the 3.4L HO 200, if that's your question. But I doubt you would feel you wasted your money if you went with the HO or 225 or 225HO. If you're big on power, go big. If you just want a strong-performing boat within your budget, the 2.7L 200 G2 will blow your mind.
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
Myself? I just can't wrap my head around the HO price thing. Can I get a G2 that is a non HO?
I'm working on a new purchase where the factory pre rigs for Evinrude. My boat dealer is Evinrude Platinum certified. The 225 hp keeps being brought up. However the CC is a mid size 21' 5" I'm sure a 200 2 stroke is enough for it. Keeping my purchase on, or even under budget is paramount. I'm not savvy I guess. I want that cool G2 look at the best price, like all G2 fans. Should I spring for an etech non HO, a 200 HO or 225 HO?
This is driving me crazy.
Nobody ever wishes they had less hp.

Good luck
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FWIW, I had G1 200 HO's on the 24' CH I bought a couple of years ago. Repowered a year ago to G2 150 H.O's. Holeshot difference is negligible. Fuel efficiency jumped 30%. Now at a year old with ~100 hours on them, I'm glad I went the route I did. 9 years remaining on the warranty. No 20 hour or 100 hour service required, so at retail prices, thats more than $1500 savings to date. And depending on the dealer it could be $2500.
The HO's (big block) all come with fly by wire and DPS. Factor that in when making a comparison-- apples to apples.
Think in terms of the cost of ownership. Not in terms of purchase price.
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:17 AM
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Recently replaced a 2005 Optimax 225 HP with an eTec G2 225 HP.
Wasn't cheap....BUT---I like it after only about 25 hours.

Of course--would probably like almost any new motor that didn't have any problems--shiny, quick start, quieter, more power, etc
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:20 AM
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Miss my Opti. No more 4 strokes for me.
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:24 AM
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I’m guessing the current and former Opti owners and some others in this thread haven’t been in a boat powered by one of the new Mercury V8 FourStrokes. Like captbone said, test before you buy. You will probably be pleasantly surprised.
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by davidwademarine View Post
I’m guessing the current and former Opti owners and some others in this thread haven’t been in a boat powered by one of the new Mercury V8 FourStrokes. Like captbone said, test before you buy. You will probably be pleasantly surprised.

Love the power and torque of my F300.

Despise all the "making oil threads" No more 4 strokes.
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Originally Posted by UCF View Post
Nobody ever wishes they had less hp.

Good luck
This comes up a lot on THT. But think of it this way: Let's say the difference from a 150 to a 200 is $4,000. You decide to get the 200. After one year (the new boat honeymoon is over), I approach you and offer to give you a 150 in exchange for your 200; exact same condition and hours, PLUS $4,000 cash. I suspect that at least a significant percentage of owners would take that offer. So yes I hear the cliche that "nobody wishes they had less horsepower" but nobody ever asks the question "do I wish I had less horsepower if the result was $4,000 extra cash in my pocket."

Now for me personally, I'm a big power guy so I'm going for the most power I can reasonably afford and will close my eyes and ears to any logic otherwise. Just wanted to make that clear.
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Billy, I'm getting twin 200 G2's With the 200 non - HO you can use standard hydraulic steering. The cost was cheaper than the new Merc 200 4s. You will be impressed withe the power.
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Old 03-16-2019, 10:05 AM
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Billy, I'm getting twin 200 G2's With the 200 non - HO you can use standard hydraulic steering. The cost was cheaper than the new Merc 200 4s. You will be impressed withe the power.
And save $$$ in the process. I'll talk with the dealer about the cost differences 150 200 and the 150 HO 200 HO.
My initial impressions are the dealer is qouting msrp prices to me.
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In reality 4 strokes don't last much longer.

How many 4 stoke motors are we seeing listed as one of a pair because one had a timing belt break, exhaust faire, etc, etc... LOTS
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You have to stay with non ho. If you go ho u have to buy the dynamic steering assembly which adds approximately $3,500 / motor
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