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Old 03-15-2019, 11:42 AM
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I知 new to this forum but I知 in need of some advice and suggestions. I like the idea rwidman posted below several years ago, but I知 wondering if anyone knows what type of macerator pump is shown in the picture? How much lift will it provide up out of the tanks - and how far will it carry it to the sewer connection? We have a 55 yacht that will be going into the marina for service in a few months, but in the meantime we need to pump out the tanks and there are no mobile pump outs available in this area. Any suggestions on how we can pump out the tanks at home until the marina can get it in for service? We are getting pretty desperate here and there are no sewer companies or Porta-potty companies that offer yacht pumpout. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.

I like the concept that rwidman posted but need more information or other alternatives. His post showed a picture then added that attached to the 12 volt macerator pump were 2 standard plumbing adapters, and a 1 diameter hose long enough to reach your sewer connection. One fitting screws into the pump and stays there, the other is temporarily screwed onto the deck fitting.

Is 12v strong enough to lift up to 7-10 feet and then carry it approximately 115-120 feet to the sewer connection? Very slight uphill grade, nothing significant.



Thanks to anyone that can help.

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Old 03-15-2019, 12:28 PM
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No picture. Is it this model?

https://www.xylem.com/siteassets/bra...tasheet-en.pdf

When you are finished pumping it out, you will still have the problem of the crap in that long hose running back downhill.

Maybe something like this?

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Old 03-15-2019, 01:02 PM
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Certainly I don't know the regs in FLA, but there may be some local officials who might have something to say about this idea, so you might want to be discrete.
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:32 PM
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It痴 not allowing me to post the picture that rwidman posted on this subject in 2008; however, the macerator was connected to the deck plate with a secure deck fitting and the sewer connection was also a sealed and secure fitting - much like ones used by RV痴 for home gravity sewer dumping. The exception in his illustration was the the addition of the macerator pump connected to the deck plate. Regarding cleaning the hose, it appeared to be an old garden type hose. I was thinking it may be possible be to flush it out with a disenfectant cleaner by attaching a feeding mechanism (much like bug sprays, window washing materials, etc that connect to a hose with a Y connector). The hose would certainly not be used afterwards for any other purpose. Obviously I知 very new to all of this and that痴 why I知 looking for advice and suggestions in this forum. This is only a temporary fix until they can get the yacht in for repairs, but in the meantime I need to address this issue since there aren稚 a lot of alternatives available.

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Old 03-15-2019, 05:43 PM
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Does the boat run well enough to go offshore and macerate it into the water. You wouldn't have to worry about a long hose then. I don't think any small pump has the capability to push that much black water up hill for that distance regardless of voltage. If you can't go 3 miles offshore then consider buying one of those RV totes on wheels. Macerate into that then dump it in a sewer cleanout

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Old 03-16-2019, 11:57 AM
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I don稚 think so. Had definitely considered it as that would make things easier; however, It is currently running one only one engine so didn稚 want to chance taking it out. In fact, it will be towed in to the marina when they get it in for repairs.
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Are the waters the boat is in no discharge waters?

Why wont a porta potti company pump out?

I can't believe there are no pumpout boats in the area?

Is the boat going to be used that much in the next few months that the holding tank fills up?

How large is the holding tank?

I can get 2-3 weeks with myself and SO on-board my boat with a 30 gallon holding tank if we are conservative. I'd imagine the 55'er has a larger holding tank?
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Old 03-16-2019, 02:16 PM
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I agree! I have called every porta potty company around and none of them (including septic companies) pump out boats. I was shocked that there was no mobile pumpout services either. Guess I need to look into a possible new startup business and leave retirement on hold.

There is no discharge unless I take it out into open water, which as I mentioned previously - I don稚 want to chance limping it out on one engine. Nor do I want to have it towed just for the purposes of a pump or dump. It has been used by out of town family members that come to visit and escape the cold up north, and unfortunately we do have a lot of extra room in the house. Frustrating to say the least.
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I would prefer the Whale Gulper Diaphram Pump over any maceator. They last.
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Thanks. Is there a particular whale gulper you prefer? They have several models to chose from - one that would have better lift and distance capabilities? We致e looked at several of these macerator pumps and finding one that is 24v or will run off of both AC and DC has been an arduous task. I never realized there were so many models. Boy, the things we take for granted.
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Thanks. Is there a particular whale gulper you prefer? They have several models to chose from - one that would have better lift and distance capabilities? We致e looked at several of these macerator pumps and finding one that is 24v or will run off of both AC and DC has been an arduous task. I never realized there were so many models. Boy, the things we take for granted.
go to their site. They design specifically for this service and they can also answer your questions.

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go to their site. They design specifically for this service and they can also answer your questions.

https://www.amazon.com/Whale-Marine-.../dp/B076GXCC6Q
Thats for grey waste, not black
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Old 03-16-2019, 05:56 PM
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Dometic (formerly SeaLand) T pump. It's a diaphragm pump like Whale. It can handle that amount if lift, is 12v, and has a life expectancy measured in decades. Pricey, but an excellent pump. Quiet too, if that's a factor.
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The 2554b is the 24 v toilet holding tank pump
https://www.whalepumps.com/Marine/pr...er-Toilet-Pump
These typically will self prime around 10 feet above tank and also pump more height than that.

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Thank you for all the recommendations. I never thought I壇 be doing so much research on crapper pumps. Ugh!

Regardjng the Whale Gulper Toilet Pump with the 10 ft. lift; any idea what the distance is to push it once it痴 out of the tank? I couldn稚 seem to find that information in any documentation unless I misread something. Everything mentioned the 10 feet but I assumed that was the lift only. I hope it would carry it further than 10 feet - whether it was a 12v or 24v, right?

Same question regarding the Dometic T series. I don稚 have an issue putting the money out for a decent pump and a cart if it will accomplish the task at hand (safely pumping blackwater tank at my dock from the deck plate on the yacht into a portable dock tank of alternate system for dumping at approved pump/dump station) until yacht can get towed into marina sometime in April. Not sure if I previously mentioned this, but our vessel is a 55 Sea Ray Sundancer.

Again, truly appreciate all the suggestions and support here. It is extremely irritating that no mobile pumpouts or Porta potty companies are available in this area or offer this service and my only option is to have Sea Tow tow us to a pumpout. Absolutely Ridiculous!
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voltage has nothing to do with the head the pump will produce. It will lift 10 and probably pump another 30 , but call whale for the specifics
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On any pump, you don't want it to pump uphill any farther than it has to.

Coming out of the pump going 8ft vertical and then downhill all the way to the outlet is way better than coming out of the pump at a slight uphill angle over a long horizontal distance.

Get your lift done at the pump, downhill/gravity drain to the outlet.

I've used Whale and Dometic T. Whale makes a nice bilge pump but I like the T pump better for black water. I've used both and the T pump is somewhat more robust, but nothing against Whale they make a nice pump.
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I would get the whale pump and pump it into one of those RV totes and dump in the marinas sewer clean out. Depending on sizes you may have to make a couple trips but that would be your cheapest way out
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Back when I trailered I used a Todd waste caddy to pump out at home. Hand diaphragm pump on a plastic tote with wheels. Worked well. I've also pressed it into service since when the macerator broke.
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