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Old 03-14-2019, 12:43 PM
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I currently have F200s 2014 Yamaha
Considering moving to 250 Zukes similar year range.

I am under impression Yamaha outboards hold value better, so thinking I could do a even trade price wise for a set of 250 zukes once I sell f200s?

What do you guys think?
Any twin 250 zukes for sale in the 2014-2017 range?
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:36 PM
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Do you have 4.2L 200?
Hydrotecmarine does ECU flashes up to 300hp.
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by friogatto View Post
Do you have 4.2L 200?
Hydrotecmarine does ECU flashes up to 300hp.
Yes that is what I have, I was told by another company they can only get this engine up to 225...
Hydrotecmarine? Ill give them a call.
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I thought the 4.2L 200 was only available as a SHO model.
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In re Suzuki, a lot depends on where you live as there are a lot or areas where Suzuki sales and service is not abundant - but where it is, Suzuki's seem to have a very good resale value.
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Very happy with my new Zukes...hard to not do it with the price difference and a motor designed just as well...I went from F225 to DF250.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:09 PM
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I don’t think you’ll have a prayer of selling a pair of 200’s for enough money to buy a pair of 250’s.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ric232 View Post
I thought the 4.2L 200 was only available as a SHO model.
It is.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ric232 View Post
I thought the 4.2L 200 was only available as a SHO model.
Yes and I believe 20 inch shafts also. Twins with 20 inch shafts?

The 250 SHO is the only one with an option for 25 inch shafts.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian6892 View Post
Yes that is what I have, I was told by another company they can only get this engine up to 225...
Hydrotecmarine? Ill give them a call.
You can install a VF250 ECU into your VF200 and voila have 250 HP at your disposal.

I suspect however that you do not have a 4.2 liter VF200.
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Good luck. I won't work on them and wouldn't own one. Just my experience...
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Originally Posted by inriver View Post
Good luck. I won't work on them and wouldn't own one. Just my experience...
Them and one being which brand?
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I've worked on both brands and have been a professional mechanic for over 20 years. IMO Yamaha builds a better motor and electronics. I have seen some zuke engine parts that were built poorly when compared to the same yammy parts. There are also a lot of threads for zukes having electrical/starting/ecu issues, as well. On the flip side, some guys have had no problems and logged several thousand hours on their zukes, so who knows. Good luck
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Originally Posted by Brian6892 View Post
Yes that is what I have, I was told by another company they can only get this engine up to 225...
Hydrotecmarine? Ill give them a call.
not a chance they are 4.2s in a twin application. Have to be inline four 2.8s or v6 3.3l
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Agreed about inline 4 or v6, BUT if they are somehow V6 4.2l then Nizpro actually can flash em to 330hp. About to do it to a pair of F250s I have coming out of warranty this year.
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No way I believe that you can add 130hp to a naturally aspirated engine with tuning.
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Originally Posted by Chillinthemost View Post
No way I believe that you can add 130hp to a naturally aspirated engine with tuning.
Why not? If the motor was designed for say 350 HP, but then derated to 250 HP, is it not possible to change the ECU such that 330 HP is developed?
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Originally Posted by Chillinthemost View Post
No way I believe that you can add 130hp to a naturally aspirated engine with tuning.
They have been doing it for years.

Just goes to show how much Yamaha limited the VF200, 225, and 250.

By taking the fuel mappings from the F300 and bumping the rev limiter they were able to squeeze 334hp out of the VF200 (they share the same 4.2L).

I would keep the stock limiter so its more in the 300hp range.

OP, even if you dont have the 4.2L, Hydro may have other solutions to help get the numbers you need. Worth a call to find out.
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Originally Posted by Chillinthemost View Post
No way I believe that you can add 130hp to a naturally aspirated engine with tuning.
Nizpro indicates almost otherwise.

http://www.nizpromarine.com/ecu-re-flashing/

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Zuks are so much better.
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