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Old 03-14-2019, 06:49 AM
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Default Input from newer ETEC 150 owners or mechanics??

I havent had 150 etecs since 2006 - bought new twins on a boat I built and great engines other than lost some injectors due to dry Venezuelan fuel had to use. Lost a computer on an engine 3 yrs later..maybe 500 hrs faster I sold boat.

Now I am looking at pulling the trigger on a used boat that was re-powered with a 150 etec and has the extended warranty till 2023. Has 300 hrs and only problem was something to do with lower unit right off the bat, which was fixed. So it has had the bugs shook out..or not?

I have no experience with the newer gen of etecs and I dont have avail service anywhere close by. I know that there have been 100 etec threads that go either way but I am asking specific to this one engine and reliability. I really want the boat and would pay a premium it is had a 150 yam on the back as its a rare boat with the config I want. I think I should try to discount the sale price somnewhat as etecs are shunned in the pacific north west area where I live. Unfortunately the owner is new to boats and really dosent understand all of this stuff. He got suckered at a boat show with the engine re-power.

The question is how much more likely is it for me to blow my wad 20 miles off shore with one of these engines vs a Japanese 4 stroke? Thats is really all I care about as I plan on keeping the boat for the long term.

Sure like to hear comments from etec owners who have racked up some real hours..not ones with 225 hrs and 'very happy so far', which seems to be the norm on many engine threads..
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Let's first have the model number from the serial number plate so we know exactly which engine you have. That way we can check for service bulletins, updates, etc. for you.

There is a forum for E-TEC owners where you will get more accurate responses as they are actual E-TEC experienced owners, dealers, and technicians. E-TEC Owners Group
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S/n is 05459752 E150DSLAB ( DSLAB = dead on slab!?)

Will look at etec forums thx..but like many specific forums people tend to post when have probs and not when no issues as nothing to bitch about. So can get turned off easily. Certified mechanics cant really speak their minds..esp in this day and age of media spying.
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Bitiching is not allowed over there, it is setup to help and educate the members. If someone has a problem, there are well trained techs who can suggest and assist and they do speak their mind. It is not associated with the factory. If someone only wants to only complain and not try to resolve anything, they are asked to leave. It has a great service library also.
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Originally Posted by seahorse View Post
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Bitiching is not allowed over there, it is setup to help and educate the members. If someone has a problem, there are well trained techs who can suggest and assist and they do speak their mind. It is not associated with the factory. If someone only wants to only complain and not try to resolve anything, they are asked to leave. It has a great service library also.

Thats why I asked my question on this forum! I looked at the etec forum and just rows and rows of this dont work that dont work. Like any engine forum its a place where people post to help solve issues. But the problem solvers who make a living doing this are to some degree associated with the factory because they have that badge on their coveralls.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:34 AM
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If you want accurate information you need to consult with techs who are trained and experienced, which means they attend factory annual update seminars, have access to online factory information, service bulletins, and manual, and work for authorized Evinrude dealers.

If you only want information not knowing if it is correct coming from strangers with unknown credentials and perhaps questionable or non-existent ability and experience, then knock yourself out in the world of open forums.
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I want info from unknown stangers who have no allegiance to evinrude but who have run the shit out the newer gen of etecs.
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I'm a mechanic at a dealership in Alaska. We sell all brands except Suzuki. The early G2's had some problems the factory worked through and we updated them. One of my customers is driving his boat from south Texas to Nova Scotia. He's got twin 300 G2's and bought them after researching every brand on the market.

As Seahorse asked, what's the model and serial? We can look up warranty history and tell you if there are any outstanding bulletins, so can any Evinrude dealer.
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I owned a pair of 250s for 5 years. I wouldn't own any again. Seahorse is nice and helpful but very much a Etec fan IMO. The Etec owners group has some useful posts but also a lot of fanfare that is in my opinion unwarranted. Someone over there deleted my account, I assume because I posted negative personal experiences with Etecs that I personally owned. I did create another account and sell some parts on that forum when my engines blew up though.

Someone should be along shortly to remind the world that my engines were used, over propped, and the one that didn't completely blow up had water in the oil, etc. Like yours, the ones I had were older (2005s) and one had a computer go out inside of 500 hours. I think I lost 3 or 4 injectors (only motors I have ever owned in my life that had fuel injectors go bad.) The flywheel magnets rusted, came loose, and caused issues, and some other things.

Overall, I didn't like them. They are finicky with no real benefit. If the fuel pumps and fuel system aren't in perfect condition, they don't run right. You have to index the plugs. The shift shaft is a pain and has to be adjusted to a 1/32 inch tolerance. If you lose a trim tab / torque tab, the prop shaft seal will blow. A bunch of little things like that for what? The only places they really shined in my experience is they burned very little fuel at idle, they had a built in trailering bracket, and the diagnostic software was pretty good. I have Japanese 4 strokes now and I get better fuel mileage at cruise which more than makes up for the extra burn at idle and the engines I have now just plain run without all the Etec quirks.

Not late model experience but at least it is real world from a stranger. Is the new 150 any better? Maybe.
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I called my old outboard mechanic and he said he would not put an etec on his boat and esp the 115. Stated of all the 150 least problematic. Kind of like the 6.0 ford. 10% blew and the others ran past expected svc life.
But he mentioned that has seem some with high hours and worked hard that never missed a lick. I guess the best answer is can your kicker get you back to port in not so great conditions!

The engine in question is 150 DSLAB 05459752 sold 2016.

thx for looking this up. Im not scared to buy it as at least it had a yam 9.9hp kicker!
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I am not exactly sure what you're asking, you seem like your mind is already made up and you are buying the boat? you say there is no e-tec dealer near you, which is going to be a pain, and the one that told you the 115 was the most problematic does not know what he is talking about, Seahorse is very helpful, take his advice.
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Originally Posted by tesoro View Post
I want info from unknown stangers who have no allegiance to evinrude but who have run the shit out the newer gen of etecs.



The title of your postings says you are looking input from mechanics, which means they would have to be E-TEC trained by the factory, or you would have someone shooting in the dark without any knowledge of the product but an E-TEC trained technician would have to give you a correct answer.
By the way, my factory training over the years has been on Mercury, Yamaha, and Evinrude, plus Suzuki classes and seminars that apply to the models that were sold under the J and E names. Where would my preferences lie now?
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Here is your best answer based on what you have posted.
Buy the boat.
Sell the engines.
Get whatever engines you feel good with.

Seems like the way to go as you don't have Etec service nearby.

BTW, About Seahorse, I'm not sure how old he is, but, he may have had a hand in getting Evinrude and/or Johnson get started building outboards. And may have more knowledge of a lot of engines, or at least where to find the knowledge, than most of us unknown strangers.
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You can search the internet and recreate the Ford vs Chevy debate with outboard motors.
Some will buy nothing but a Yamaha-even though I can search forums and find people who will never own another because................

I had a 2005 Mercury Optimax-225 hp--worked fine until it didn't. Was going to replace it with a new Mercury last fall. Well, I couldn't actually buy one. I considered Yamaha--well, I couldn't actually buy one of those either so I bought a 225 e-Tec. So far--happy with the motor.

A key to your situation is no certified Evinrude technicians near by. That means you'll be at the nearest work on everything but expert with none mechanic. I think the e-Tec needs someone with training.
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Pick any brand and someone will have had a bad experience with it. I would look at warranty and quality and ease of service.
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Thanks everyone. So it looks like the best solution would be to sell it once I get the boat.
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BTW, About Seahorse, I'm not sure how old he is, but, he may have had a hand in getting Evinrude and/or Johnson get started building outboards.
Fred Flintstone and his buddy Barney were some of my first customers.
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Please your handle is Seahorse on just about every boating website offering "free" advice on Johnson, Evinrude, ETEC engines since the start of the WWW.
You having no preference is laughable.



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The title of your postings says you are looking input from mechanics, which means they would have to be E-TEC trained by the factory, or you would have someone shooting in the dark without any knowledge of the product but an E-TEC trained technician would have to give you a correct answer.
By the way, my factory training over the years has been on Mercury, Yamaha, and Evinrude, plus Suzuki classes and seminars that apply to the models that were sold under the J and E names. Where would my preferences lie now?
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I owned a pair of 250s for 5 years. I wouldn't own any again. Seahorse is nice and helpful but very much a Etec fan IMO. The Etec owners group has some useful posts but also a lot of fanfare that is in my opinion unwarranted. Someone over there deleted my account, I assume because I posted negative personal experiences with Etecs that I personally owned. I did create another account and sell some parts on that forum when my engines blew up though.

Someone should be along shortly to remind the world that my engines were used, over propped, and the one that didn't completely blow up had water in the oil, etc. Like yours, the ones I had were older (2005s) and one had a computer go out inside of 500 hours. I think I lost 3 or 4 injectors (only motors I have ever owned in my life that had fuel injectors go bad.) The flywheel magnets rusted, came loose, and caused issues, and some other things.

Overall, I didn't like them. They are finicky with no real benefit. If the fuel pumps and fuel system aren't in perfect condition, they don't run right. You have to index the plugs. The shift shaft is a pain and has to be adjusted to a 1/32 inch tolerance. If you lose a trim tab / torque tab, the prop shaft seal will blow. A bunch of little things like that for what? The only places they really shined in my experience is they burned very little fuel at idle, they had a built in trailering bracket, and the diagnostic software was pretty good. I have Japanese 4 strokes now and I get better fuel mileage at cruise which more than makes up for the extra burn at idle and the engines I have now just plain run without all the Etec quirks.

Not late model experience but at least it is real world from a stranger. Is the new 150 any better? Maybe.


On a post note: Is the B model 2015 era 150 any better...I would say doubtful after I made some calls today. the fact that recommendations above say dont own and be far away from a 'factory trained technician' tells you alot! have had 15 of so yam 4 strokes and never had an injector go bad. My 2-150's lost 2 in the first year even tho we added some 2 stroke lube to the gas per the manu recommend. And yes I also lost a computer real quick and after I sold it another one went the next year and 2 more injectors. NO warranty in Belize where I was. And the icing on the cake was the paint in the midsections started bubbling up after 6 mos from new...just like the old omc's would do.
All I can say is that after a few decades running boats nearly every day I never looked back at my Yamahas and wished I have evinrudes hanging on the transom...or any other make for that matter.
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Please your handle is Seahorse on just about every boating website offering "free" advice on Johnson, Evinrude, ETEC engines since the start of the WWW.
You having no preference is laughable.
Having a preference is fine, telling everyone anything else but your favourite is rubbish, is not fine, I can't remember Seahorse ever bashing other brands, maybe setting facts straight when people post BS, but bashing a brand? not that I can remember, please post a link to such a post.
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