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Old 02-07-2004, 07:39 PM
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Have been looking into getting a boat and this one had come up on my radar screen. Though a DC, it seems VERY configurable, with some innovative features like flip-down rear seats to form a casting platform, etc. Then, for the 10% of the time the wife comes out, it can also make a good ski boat. I was at the Long Island boat show today, and they had one I poked around on. Seems good, but then again I'm no expert.

Boat is here:


http://www.triumphboats.com/Boats/Bo...il.asp?bid=144

Now, there have also been a couple of THT threads on the general quality of Triumph boats, Roplene construction, etc, here:

http://thehulltruth.com/eve/ubb.x?q=...=309606231&p=1

http://thehulltruth.com/eve/ubb.x?a=...=222603231&p=1


So, anyone bought one of these lately?
Any opinion this boat is trying to do too many things?
Anything new on the Roplene / quality debate?

Thanks for all thoughts -
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:47 AM
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I have been Triumph dealer since the "Logic" days - and let me tell you they sure built some junk in the past. Things have changed a lot since Genmar bought them. Each year they have worked more & more of the bugs out. This years models are the best I've seen, with the 191 series being the most well designed and thought out boat. I may be a dealer, but I've always been right on the phone to them when we unwrap a new boat to rig - bitchin' and moanin' about all the things they did wrong. Not this year - I found one problem with an aftermarket engine harness. When I talked to one of the engineers, he had a hard time figuring out what I was talking about because this boat was built in the fall and they had already fixed the problem. I know the 191 quite well as I spent some time on one of the prototype 191FS's as my rep has the dealer meeting display model. Mrs Lakensea & I put about 5 hours on it last fall and were quite impressed. I have a production model in the shop now along side a new Key West 186DC. Feel free to ask any questions. You can also visit the Logic/Triumph Boat Owners forum HERE.

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Default Triumph 191 FS - Fish-Ski DC boat - Compromise? Any opinions?

Dealers up in CT have mentioned that the 2003 models as well were much better. Do you concur?
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quote:Originally posted by rmcccs:

Dealers up in CT have mentioned that the 2003 models as well were much better. Do you concur?

Yes, '03's were improved, '04's even better.
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Default Triumph 191 FS - Fish-Ski DC boat - Compromise? Any opinions?

First a Fish-n-Ski boat is a compromise. It certainly will not be the best at either, but for many of us, it is what we can afford and what everyone in the family can enjoy.

DC's, in general, make the the best Fish-n-Ski boats.

Pictures don't really say much about a boat, but I am impressed. The old "Logic" boats were tough, but fit and finish was poor. If I was shopping today, I would certainly give the 191 a hard look.

Lakensea, I respect your opinion as a delaer. Are Triumph boats priced above or below other boats that you sell ? With the improved quality and new models, are sales picking up ?
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Default Triumph 191 FS - Fish-Ski DC boat - Compromise? Any opinions?

Just read a recent review of this boat in B&WB magazine - very favorable. They ran mostly in 2' chop and the boat handled it well. Boat "only" had 45 or 46 mph top speed w/ a 150 but they still liked it.
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Some cross-polination:

- a Triumph owners board with some candid (mostly positive) discussion:
http://groups.msn.com/LogicTriumphBo...58272494944928

- another board with a few comments:
http://www.allboating.com/topics/002661.html?motors

I'm still looking for any substantial negative comments on these boats. If none, then why aren't more people buying these yet?

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quote: I'm still looking for any substantial negative comments on these boats. If none, then why aren't more people buying these yet?

Ugly finish is substantive enuf for many shoppers. In my town the Triumphs sell for more than a nice aluminum boat. I would rather have the aluminum boat. But then I don't run in saltwater either.

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"ugly finish..."

I noticed that as well (at least for my tastes...) That tan/brown color on the 191's is just plain putrid. Why are they handicaping themselves like this? Whose wife at Genmar picked out this color scheme? And why can't they just do it in classic white?
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I agree - what were they thinking about that color scheme?
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I totally agree with Biff.... the tan/brown color is HIDEOUS. Sure sounds like a VERY durable boat, but the layout isn't quite what most hard core fishermen want... a decent compromise I guess... They should have gone for as white as they could with their product.

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